Scarlet Witch is really the person Marvel is trying to pass off as a hero?

[DurararaFTW]

Whoever did Wanda ever kill? Who is maimed?

Hydro is still dead (able to breathe underwater as a mutant, then he suddenly he couldn't), and all those who were in similiar situations, 515 Blob is still walking around with 10 ten times a normal human's skin, but none of the fat. And you know, all the mutants on the infinite alternate Earths that Wanda depowered too. Not every Chamber managed to get all the vital organs he was missing back with help of their respective Earth's Apocalypse clan.

[klinton]

Which mutants did Wanda kill? By my count Namor willfully killed more people when he was P5-crazy than Wanda ever did.

It doesn't really matter, because unlike Namor and Magneto, Wanda personally visited the families of each and every one of her victims to weep at their feet and apologize personally. She even conjoured up the spirits of thier dead loved ones so they could all say thier proper goodbyes. It was really quite touching, actually.

It all happened off panel, where these all important victims live an grieve.

It was important that she visit them there as that's where they are, all the time.

[klinton]

Whoa. This got...ugly.

But, yeah, sorry Albone. She isn't Jewish. She's a practicing witch, religious rites and all.

That was kind of a low blow, mate...and completely out of left field.

But as for 'canon' debates: it is now canon that both sides have judged her and left her alone. Mutant revolutionary leader and ex-world roasting genocidal maniac himself Scott Summers has allowed her free. Canon.

So...we're done here? Great! Now we can count down together the minutes until my comic shoppe opens on Wednesday so I can read Uncanny Avengers #4! :D

[blanchett]

Whoa. This got...ugly.

But, yeah, sorry Albone. She isn't Jewish. She's a practicing witch, religious rites and all.

That was kind of a low blow, mate...and completely out of left field.

But as for 'canon' debates: it is now canon that both sides have judged her and left her alone. Mutant revolutionary leader and ex-world roasting genocidal maniac himself Scott Summers has allowed her free. Canon.

So...we're done here? Great! Now we can count down together the minutes until my comic shoppe opens on Wednesday so I can read Uncanny Avengers #4! :D

Are you sure it's definately coming out this week? I loved Uncanny X-Force but even aside from Wanda I have not been feeling this arc. I'm hoping that Remender wins me over. The whole premise of the story arc about Nazi's grafting mutant DNA to themselves just seems to go against everything they supposedly believe in. I think Remender might be addressing that this issue though. In the preview it looked like one of his henchmen was starting to question him. The one mind controlling Thor I think.

[CJStriker]

WOW, Ok this got off topic by Allot.

I thought in the end we all just wanted the Best for Wanda, That is all we should want I believe.

[DurararaFTW]

No. If they're doing it because they are some person's favorite character that would trolling. It's pretty clear it's Wanda herself that people have a problem with. As for why her actions are more discussed then others, I don't that's anything to wonder at. Every X-over from House of M till Avengers vs X-Men is basically dealing with the fallout of her actions. Namor's actions in Wakanda are probably not gonna get the same treatment. Nor is he gonna be the big hero of any crossover. He's gonna sulk in Atlantis for a while and then go back to being the dick he, unlike Wanda, always has been.

[klinton]

Are you sure it's definately coming out this week? I loved Uncanny X-Force but even aside from Wanda I have not been feeling this arc. I'm hoping that Remender wins me over. The whole premise of the story arc about Nazi's grafting mutant DNA to themselves just seems to go against everything they supposedly believe in. I think Remender might be addressing that this issue though. In the preview it looked like one of his henchmen was starting to question him. The one mind controlling Thor I think.

Yeah, it's def coming. It's on the Diamond shipping list today. Yay! :D

I can't help but love it. This series has so many things I love in it: Cap, Alex, Wanda, Skull...and all of them are in fine form. Seriously, seeing Wanda tell Rogue off in the first issue made me SO happy. After watching Wanda simper and grovel through most of Children's Crusade and AvX....seeing her with her spirit back made my week when I read that.

Add Alex' stepping up to the big leagues (after himself being on a hiatus from regular publication): gravy. Seeing him dress down Steve: gold!

There is so much for me to love on every page that watching Wanda get sucker punched, stabbed, and mind controlled seems inconsequential. :p

[Global Honored]

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[pepper]

Oh, it's so unfair! All Wanda gets is constant bullying from Rogue and getting raped by a Nazi, while poor, disserviced Scott has to deal with sympathisers and being on the cover of magazines. Boohoo!

Also, Cyclops' eyebeams are waaay bigger than Wolverine's claws.

[gregyo]

Oh, it's so unfair! All Wanda gets is constant bullying from Rogue and getting raped by a Nazi, while poor, disserviced Scott has to deal with sympathisers and being on the cover of magazines. Boohoo!

Also, Cyclops' eyebeams are waaay bigger than Wolverine's claws.

Ha! I'm glad so many people caught that subtext. That being said, The dudes from Sleeping Beauty and Snow White did the same thing as Skull, but nobody blames them for it...

[klinton]

Ha! I'm glad so many people caught that subtext. That being said, The dudes from Sleeping Beauty and Snow White did the same thing as Skull, but nobody blames them for it...

It was off panel, and therefor completely deniable.

Never happened.

[mikekerrIII]

Whoever did Wanda ever kill? Who is maimed? P5 Namor killed more people than Wanda ever did. Why don't you troll on about that?

From the OP of this thread



And they had many books about all the folks that she maimed

[mikekerrIII]

WOW, Ok this got off topic by Allot.

I thought in the end we all just wanted the Best for Wanda, That is all we should want I believe.

It is just that some of US believe that the best for Wanda is her being considered a villain or being in limbo.

[Mark_S]

That's some serious denial you've got going.

Which in my opinion is really the only way you can read marvel comics. Call it denial or call it choosing your own continuity. The writers and the editors go wild with all of these concepts and very seldom bother to clean them up, or leave to others to clean them up. No one is more guilty of this than Bendis. He'll toss a character into a trash can and leave it to another writer to try and clean them off.

[CJStriker]

It is just that some of US believe that the best for Wanda is her being considered a villain or being in limbo.

And you got plenty of Limbo for the past 8 years, now it is our turn my friend.