WWE RAW IV: Show me respect!

[Gryphon]

Build him up.


Introduce him as Kassius Ohno the knockout kid who wants to be the hero to america....



Was chris hero ever a face?

[Kid Kamikaze10]

His matches have been really good on tv, he isn't over though.
The thing with Cesaro is, he's not over, but he does shit that gets the crowd into the match, but it's not heel spots, it's power moves.
Im not sure if that means anything. Since he's suppose to be a heel and people are suppose to boo him.

Remember, DB started out that way.

[Alex]

Remember, DB started out that way.

Well, not exactly, he was never a heel, though he did get people into matches they otherwise wouldn't care about due to participants.
I remember when Miz had the belt, this was leading into his mania, and he wasn't really over...this may have been after the lawler stuff.
But he came out for a match with Bryan, i think he had the us title at the time, and the crowd didn't give a shit at all. Until halfway through, and bryan carried that sob to one of the best matches he had during his title run, and he lost and looked better, and Miz won and looked better than he had at any point during his run.

[steve2275]

ive got this whole at the royal rumble he challenges any american to a us title match only to hear a few seconds later
whoa hey whoa hey yessir somebodys gonna get their ass kicked

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Seth Rollins Comments After RAW, Promo for WWE Week, Classic Match for WWE's Bret Hart DVD
By Marc Middleton
Dec 11, 2012 - 8:11:28 AM

- WWE released the following video for WWE Week on the USA Network next week:


- The Shield's Seth Rollins tweeted the following after last night's RAW:

"The shadows are ours and soon so shall be the light. We are the ones who will make the wrongs right. @WWE @TheShieldWWE #TLC"

- WWEDVDNews reports that WWE has been reaching out to British wrestlers in an attempt to get footage of a World of Sport era match with Bret Hart vs. Marty Jones. WWE wants the match to appear on Hart's "Dungeon Collection" DVD that comes out next year.

Read more at http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/...F2YQ9oyHHbU.99

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What Happened After Last Night's WWE RAW from Newark, New Jersey
By Marc Middleton
Dec 10, 2012 - 11:28:21 PM

- After tonight's RAW went off the air in Newark, New Jersey, the babyface Superstars gained the upperhand and cleared the ring of The Shield and Big Show.

Dolph Ziggler was left alone and got Shell Shocked from Ryback, then a Brogue Kick from Sheamus. Daniel Bryan hit a flying headbutt and Kane chokeslammed him. Cena ended it with an Attitude Adjustment.
Read more at http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/...pwEyKOFr0pv.99

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Former WWE Superstar Backstage at Last Night's RAW, WWE's Return to Springfield, MO
By Marc Middleton
Dec 11, 2012 - 6:51:37 AM

- WWE will return to the JQH Arena in Springfield, Missouri on Saturday, February 9th, 2013 for a RAW live event. Tickets go on sale this coming Saturday.

- Colt Cabana revealed that he was backstage at last night's RAW from Newark, New Jersey. He posted the following:



"Look who's TOUTING!"

Steve "Brooklyn Brawler" Lombardi also noted on Twitter that Cabana was backstage.
Read more at http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/...Hb78FlmqHjQ.99

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Cody Rhodes Comments on His Return, Names In Attendance for RAW Last Night, RAW DVD
By Marc Middleton
Dec 11, 2012 - 7:47:40 AM

- The Band Gaslight Anthem were in attendance for last night's RAW from Newark, New Jersey. "The Machine" Jesse Green from Nat Geo's American Chainsaw program was also backstage.

- WWE's Top 100 Moments In RAW History DVD and Blu-ray hits stores today.

- Zack Ryder's dad and friend The Big O were sitting ringside for last night's RAW.

- Cody Rhodes returned earlier than expected from injury during last night's RAW. He tweeted after the show:

"2 muscle tears, 1 blown AC joint...25 days later HEALED. Rather miraculous...just getting started. #RhodesToTheFuture"
Read more at http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/...CfAjPzVPq2l.99

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3MB Get Tattoos But Fail to Deliver State of WWE Address, JR Comments on RAW Main Event Brawl
By Marc Middleton
Dec 11, 2012 - 7:57:52 AM

- 3MB's Drew McIntyre, Heath Slater and Jinder Mahal were set to give their State of WWE Address on last night's RAW but it didn't happen. This is the second time they had a segment nixed from RAW as their segment from Bourbon Street a few weeks back still hasn't aired. Last night, they posted a series of Tout videos where it appeared they partied too hard in their hotel room. They also posted Tout videos of them getting tattoos. Here's a clip of Jinder about to get his first tat:



Drew McIntyre commented after RAW:

"Due to circumstances beyond 3MBs control. The state of WWE address has been put back slightly. We apologize and was unavoidable #WWEAddress"

- Jim Ross says the big brawl at the end of last night's RAW reminded him of the old days. JR tweeted:

"Loved the final few minutes of @WWE #Raw tonight. The chaotic collusion w/ multiple madness painted a nice picture. Reminded me of old days."
Read more at http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/...RVKrGZY7uLu.99

[BYC]

For me, Cesaro is appealing because he's kind of an Eurotrash guy. I think that's funny. Like those silly little fist pumps he does. So awkward but so funny. Of course, he's also a big badass with good power moves.

He needs a mouth piece if they want to elevate him further. But I think just leaving him as is for a while is fine.

[Gryphon]

BTW

Paul Heyman used some non PG yiddish last night.

[Legato]

For me, Cesaro is appealing because he's kind of an Eurotrash guy. I think that's funny. Like those silly little fist pumps he does. So awkward but so funny. Of course, he's also a big badass with good power moves.

He needs a mouth piece if they want to elevate him further. But I think just leaving him as is for a while is fine.

I think he's fine as he is mic wise. He could stand to use a change of gimmick once elevated though

[Red Lotus]

AJ acting like a child throwing a tantrum at a supermarket certainly isn't making me sympathize with her. But yeah I don't see why they couldn't have AJ chase after the divas title.

The Aj stuff felt like it took a turn in direction last night. The way she acted and the way Cena acted felt more like Aj is going to try to boil his bunny.

[Legato]

The Aj stuff felt like it took a turn in direction last night. The way she acted and the way Cena acted felt more like Aj is going to try to boil his bunny.

So far the only person one should root for in this is Ziggler. Especially if AJ does anything remotely heelish then that would just make Ziggler in the right. That and the stuff he says about AJ is pretty much what the majority of the people have been thinking since the storyline began as AJ is an attention whore

[Alex L]

meaning?

the crowd seems to be behind him...

Ryder was never going to be anything more than a quasi upper midacarder

This. He's not the sort thats capable of headlining a WM nor someone that can sell out arenas. Besides Ryder has reached a point where he's pretty comfortable in his situation. Beats getting zero tv time at all

I.. hm. I don't disagree with you that 2012 Ryder is nothing more than a midcarder, but that doesn't mean he can never be more than that. I'm sure people said the same thing about Booker T, Christian, Undertaker, maybe even DDP.

Ryder right now is part of the way there - he can get people to care about him and cheer for him, it's just that his in-ring work isn't nearly there yet. But give him some time and some seasoning and he can work his way up there (if WWE wants him to).

I like Miz as a face, but he's not really a face. It's just a heel picking on heel targets instead of face targets.

Miz and Ryder should team up. They are both tacky but not self-conscious about what they are.

I am completely in favor of heel vs heel feuds. Considering most heels are colossal douches, why wouldn't they occasionally dislike each other? Or find themselves feuding over the same title or the same significant other or the same shampoo commercial or whateveritis.

[Alex]

I.. hm. I don't disagree with you that 2012 Ryder is nothing more than a midcarder, but that doesn't mean he can never be more than that. I'm sure people said the same thing about Booker T, Christian, Undertaker, maybe even DDP.

Ryder right now is part of the way there - he can get people to care about him and cheer for him, it's just that his in-ring work isn't nearly there yet. But give him some time and some seasoning and he can work his way up there (if WWE wants him to).

Ryback has main evented 2 ppvs and he sucked in both of them, he's about to main event a third.
Skill means shit.

[Alex L]

Ryback has main evented 2 ppvs and he sucked in both of them, he's about to main event a third.
Skill means shit.

This is true.

But people are saying Ryder's hit his ceiling based solely on the ability he's shown in 2012, I think dude's still got room to grow.

[Alex]

This is true.

But people are saying Ryder's hit his ceiling based solely on the ability he's shown in 2012, I think dude's still got room to grow.

I've seen Ryder have good matches, with good workers, but still, good matches.
Whats holding him down is a goofy undercard gimmick.

[steve2275]

poor justin roberts

[lboinyamouf4sho]

hmmm I do like the calling the photog into the ring

some nice heel stuff there

hell yes. eve=awesome.

Ryder was over, but WWE decided to cut his balls off. Who cares what his ceiling was, just let him run with the ball until he's tired out or fumbles. Make money off of him right now, while you can.

i just want to go on record as saying i don't care how much money they can make off him(i don't get any of the money) i would rather they don't push him. i'd rather they push better guys than him that aren't getting over on youtube.

They need a good oppenent for him to face.


Someone who could be a real American......Hero?

FUKYES!! jack swagger vs claudio would be awesome.

Was chris hero ever a face?

I've seen Ryder have good matches, with good workers, but still, good matches.
Whats holding him down is a goofy undercard gimmick.

what's holding him down is also the only thing he really has going for him.