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    Quote Originally Posted by Eumenides View Post
    With all due respect, were you hearing very good things about the current run of Hellblazer? I ask this because 1) I don't remember the series being even reviewed in major websites like CBR and Comics Alliance, 2) I forgot when was the last time the series was even nominated for an Eisner, Harvey, anything really, 3) I don't think the series even had any word of mouth promoting it. No one remembered this series until a few weeks ago, and all of the sudden it's the greatest comic book ever and everyone's sad to see it go.

    Considering the output of recent years, I'm relieved to see it end at last.
    A lot of people were enjoying the book. I know I was. The fact that it was overlooked by "major websites" (whatever that means) and that those of us who were enjoying it didn't necessarily feel the need to discuss it much is irrelevant. Some of us don't need to have our opinions validated by those of others all the time.

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    Certainly.

    By the way, have you heard of the Straight to Hell forum? It's devoted to Hellblazer and has been going on for more than a decade. Most of the members think the current series stinks. My personally favourite thread:

    The State of Hellblazer

    And their thread about issue #296 is hilarious in its negativism.

    This doesn't prove anything, but I find fascinating the dissonance of opinion between the CBR members, who think Hellblazer is the greatest comic book of the moment, and the STH members, who think Milligan put the final nail on the coffin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eumenides View Post
    Certainly.

    By the way, have you heard of the Straight to Hell forum? It's devoted to Hellblazer and has been going on for more than a decade. Most of the members think the current series stinks. My personally favourite thread:

    The State of Hellblazer

    And their thread about issue #296 is hilarious in its negativism.

    This doesn't prove anything, but I find fascinating the dissonance of opinion between the CBR members, who think Hellblazer is the greatest comic book of the moment, and the STH members, who think Milligan put the final nail on the coffin.
    Wow some people think Hellblazer isn't good. So they must speak for us all.
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    All that that really proves is that opinions are very individual things and that people who aren't happy about something tend to be much more vocal about it than those who are. I'm a member of numerous Doctor Who forums. On several of them. the negative comments from those fans who absolutely detest the current show and are continually comparing it unfavourably to its 1970s incarnation constantly outweigh the positive comments from those who like it. But that doesn't stop 8 million people in the UK from watching it regularly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eumenides View Post
    Certainly.

    By the way, have you heard of the Straight to Hell forum? It's devoted to Hellblazer and has been going on for more than a decade. Most of the members think the current series stinks. My personally favourite thread:

    The State of Hellblazer

    And their thread about issue #296 is hilarious in its negativism.

    This doesn't prove anything, but I find fascinating the dissonance of opinion between the CBR members, who think Hellblazer is the greatest comic book of the moment, and the STH members, who think Milligan put the final nail on the coffin.

    EVERY Fandom is like that. Going through a Batman forum will make you think that The Dark Knight got maybe mixed reviews if it's a good day, a Trekker forum will tell you JJ Abrahms' Star Trek is the worst thing ever, James Bond forum that Casino Royale was maybe ok and Doctor Who forums you'll get two sides: People who bitch that the New Series shouldn't exist (or be completely different) and people who think that Doctor Who died ended when Tenth regenerated. Go to ThatGuyWithTheGlasses and see how new reviews suck and the old, terribly done (from a technical standpoint) reviews are the best.

    Things are ALWAYS better before than what they are now. Five years later they would be missing Milligan and saying that this new guy (whoever he would had been) sucks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidocq View Post
    EVERY Fandom is like that. Going through a Batman forum will make you think that The Dark Knight got maybe mixed reviews if it's a good day, a Trekker forum will tell you JJ Abrahms' Star Trek is the worst thing ever, James Bond forum that Casino Royale was maybe ok and Doctor Who forums you'll get two sides: People who bitch that the New Series shouldn't exist (or be completely different) and people who think that Doctor Who died ended when Tenth regenerated.
    Depressingly, the latter group also frequently seem to believe that no Doctor Who made before 2005 actually counts...

    Sorry, totally off topic, I know. It just irritates me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FHIZ View Post
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    I can understand why "real" Hellblazer fans would hate it now! I myself, never liked Hellblazer until Milligan with Giuseppe Camuncoli and Stefano Landini. I even love the coloring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidocq View Post
    EVERY Fandom is like that. Going through a Batman forum will make you think that The Dark Knight got maybe mixed reviews if it's a good day, a Trekker forum will tell you JJ Abrahms' Star Trek is the worst thing ever, James Bond forum that Casino Royale was maybe ok and Doctor Who forums you'll get two sides: People who bitch that the New Series shouldn't exist (or be completely different) and people who think that Doctor Who died ended when Tenth regenerated. Go to ThatGuyWithTheGlasses and see how new reviews suck and the old, terribly done (from a technical standpoint) reviews are the best.

    Things are ALWAYS better before than what they are now. Five years later they would be missing Milligan and saying that this new guy (whoever he would had been) sucks.
    It's because it is too different, it's just like that. I was a HUGE capcom fan until about 2005 when they suddenly completely changed. Other than I think they still have the prettiest graphics in gaming, I have no interest in playing them anymore. I used to buy nearly every thing they made.
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    Milligan's constantine is a lot more brutal than some of the previous versions. I've liked the stuff from Epiphany forward, the wedding and so on.
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    What annoys a lot is that he settled down (eyes spider man and superman fans) instead of the crazy loner beating all odds I guess.

    Milligan painted him in a corner and I wonder how Hellblazer would continue after he would have left.
    Every Hellblazer writer sort of left a clean slate for the following writer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by obii View Post
    What annoys a lot is that he settled down (eyes spider man and superman fans) instead of the crazy loner beating all odds I guess.

    Milligan painted him in a corner and I wonder how Hellblazer would continue after he would have left.
    Every Hellblazer writer sort of left a clean slate for the following writer.
    When i heard about Constantine had a wife, i thought it was a bad joke. Every HB writer brings new ideas that dont always work. It being a classics series they always want make an impact too much.

    I enjoyed somewhat the part of Milligans run i read and but im many issues after it now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eumenides View Post
    By the way, have you heard of the Straight to Hell forum? It's devoted to Hellblazer and has been going on for more than a decade. Most of the members think the current series stinks.
    And yet even they don't seem too happy about HB cancellation and John staying in the New 52 only:

    Hellblazer ends! Constanteen begins

    http://hellblazer.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=9399
    I don't know what to consider canon anymore :(
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    Quote Originally Posted by passer-by View Post
    And yet even they don't seem too happy about HB cancellation and John staying in the New 52 only:

    Hellblazer ends! Constanteen begins

    http://hellblazer.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=9399


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