I think they made the right move making the TV Gov. more of a cerebral evil instead of the full on comic version. The line Michone had about him being a Jim Jones type bastard was right on the money here.
The Governor in the TV series is much creepier than the comic book Governor. He's like that guy next door who you think is a decent guy but ends up being a serial killer.
So many cool things about this episode:
-Reuniting Carol with the group
-The Hermit (man that was sad!)
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It's just that it sounded like graffiX said the governor only humiliated her in the interrogation scene but finally violated Glenn's girlfriend -- which, according to him, made matters worse. It sounded like Maggie was Glenn's property or something, but I wasn't sure that's what he meant. It just came off that way. As most mentioned here, it was bad enough he made her strip -- which already was a violation of her body.
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I have been enjoying this Governor version so far but he was outright creepy,terrible in this ep. That scene and what he did to Maggie make was hard to watch, i felt her fear and didnt need to see more. When he comforted her after he brought to Glenn was great evil bad guy that is far better than the cartoon villain in the comics. Woodbury arc,prison arc weakest part was the funny looking,over the top cartoon villain. I liked Woodbury conflict much better without him. This one i am convinced after this ep that is one of few things that is much better in tv show than in the comics.
I hate the guy and cant wait to see his death. Poor Maggie.
So im with you guys and i dont watch to see live action rape that dont add anything more. Good writing is better than cheap chock effects.
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I'm convinced that (comic spoilers for those that haven't read it)
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The almost-rape scene with Maggie was just a tease at what going to happen to Michonne. Had the Governor gone and raped Maggie, I think it would have came a bit out of left-field for a lot of viewers unfamiliar with the comics. Teasing what he's capable of makes it more believable when it inevitably happens to Michonne.
My gut tells me that Michonne is going to get captured at the end of the next episode and raped once the season starts up again. That way it leads to Michonne's escape and the Governor's mutilation and eventual retaliation against Rick and the prison.
Maybe Rick will lose his hand in the mid-season finale too.
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Kirkman said he felt that taking Rick's hand was a mistake, and in a live action show it would be a lot more problematic than in a comic, so I don't see it happening
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The humiliation/violation point. Let me put it to you this way: would you rather be humiliated or violated? And by violated, I mean in the PHYSICAL sense. There is nothing worse than being physically violated against your will (well, except for being killed), IMO. Not to say being humiliated is GOOD, hell no! It's bad too. But any physical violation (i.e. rape, being beaten) is a greater crime than being told to strip (albeit bad as well....and could also be called violation- but not in the physical sense). However, she was violated when he slammed her head against the table and again when her and Glenn were reunited and he was trying to caress her and tell her that was ok. I don't see how you thought I was saying she was Glenn's property from that, but whatever.
Did the Governer intend to rape Maggie? We'll never know for sure. I was just saying that, FOR ME, he needed to rape her (or cut off Glenn's hand or something else totally shocking and "I can't believe that BASTARD did THAT!!"). Do I mean that we, as viewers, needed to see the rape? NO, of course not. Simply implying that she was being physically assaulted would have been enough. Did I want to see it? NO! But I *needed* to see it to hate the Governor character. Although there is plenty of show left, so I'm sure he still could do something to make me HATE him (at this moment I strongly DISLIKE him....but hate? I can't say that I do at this moment but he's well on his way).
Look, this is the Walking Dead. So far (off the top of my head) we've seen: brains blown out almost every episode, zombies being eviserated left and right, CHILDREN being both zombies and then getting blown away, a very graphic child birth that involved a C-section in which the mother was then shot and killed by her SON, etc. You get my point. This show is held to a higher standard when it comes to shock moments.
Would the aforementioned scene with Glenn/Maggie/Governor make me hate the Governor on another show such as say....Lost? Yes, absolutely. But not this show. Not the Walking Dead. The moments that tease or dance around the subject....the coulda, woulda, shoulda don't work. This show has calloused my emotional response towards it.
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