The Walking Dead -- Season Three "One Nation under Rick !"

[kalorama]

The guy had enough sense to keep a gun ready, that probably served him well, especially if his first instinct was to shoot everybody. And the dead dog looked like it'd been there days or a couple weeks, not months. He may have been saner until relatively recently.

I thought him threatening to "call the cops" was a dead giveaway that he'd lost his marbles.

Or maybe he was always off, but controlled it with medication that he only recently ran out of.

[Alex]

That's not what you originally said. You said they should yell to draw the zombies to the fence, and stab them from the other side. That would require them actually being on the other side of the fence, not in the prison, where the cellblocks are.




As long as there are few enough walkers on either side of the fences that they aren't pinned between them. But if they end up with a huge pack on both sides of them, there's only so much hacking they can do through a fence before weight of numbers might break through. And since they don't actually know how many walkers are in the prison (outside their cell block), it would be a blind gamble to draw them all out hoping they can kill them all before they're overrun.



The gates to the cellblocks are inside the prison. The fence is on the outside of the prison. It they close the gate to the cellblock inside the prison, how are the walkers going to get to the fence on the outside? They'll be trapped in the cellblock. Unless you're suggesting that they call the walkers to cellblock gate and then open and try to make a run for the fence. Because that's just crazy. To say nothing of the fact that they have no idea how many walkers are in the prison. We've seen many times that a critical mass of them moving forward in a pack can knock down a fence, door, or plate glass window. There are only a handful of people in Rick's group. What happens if the mass group of walkers breaks through the fence (or the chains they put on the gates) then what?




No they haven't. They've actively driven by them on/in motored vehicles that move to fast for them to catch. And even then they first have someone on the inside of the gate create a distraction that draws them away from the gate. It's not like they just leisurely walked by them with no danger.

You're ignoring parts of what i'm saying and parts of the show you have seen to justify your own belief that everything they are doing makes sense. Look at the gates at the exits to the cellblocks and explain to me how the 3 zombies who would be able to fit themselves against it at a time are going to force it open, if nothing else the only problem they create is a wall of bodies too large for other zombies to fit through.
And then, when standing in between two fences with, lets say, 5 people, stabbing zombies who are reaching for you, which would take about 5 seconds per zombie, how are they going to build in numbers fast enough too knock the fence down?
This is with sharp objects mind you, Ricks group is constantly shotting guns off and the numbers haven't gotten too great, so the idea that them stabbing zombies is going to draw more doesn't make any sense.

And lastly, if they close all the gates to the interior of the prison, which they would have cleaned out first anyway, what possible chance would their be of them being pinned in on both sides?
You even pointed out, they actively drive past the zombies on the gates and have someone create a distraction to draw them away. Well, the person creating the distraction is walking past the zombies, as i said, but why yell and make noise when instead they could kill the things behind the saftey of the fence?

[The Cool Thatguy]

Uhhh you do realize the reason he had the dead dog in his cabin was to mask the scent there from the zombies. The guy just went crazy because all these people stormed in outta nowhere and woke him.

If it was there to mask the scent from the zombies, why the hell was he about to run outside where there were a few dozen zombies beating on the door to get the cops?

[AdvanceBushido]

So duct tape can keep a zombie away? Is there anything it isn't good for?

Also, how does this group keep stumbling over people who never heard of the zombies? Yeesh, weak crutch there.

It wasn't just duck tape. It was duck tape and the arm of the chair.

[graffiX]

Oh my gosh, the IMDB boards are ridiculous. So many idiots are complaining

Comic/Latest episode spoiler
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about the rape not actually happening.

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Yeah this was an ok episode. Let's see what next week brings.

I don't read the comics, but I've heard enough about them (I have friends that read them) to know that the Governor was a pretty scary dude in the comics. On the TV show? Different story.

I mean, yeah he's the "bad guy" but is he really that "bad"? Sure he has a collection of heads he keeps, and he is a shady guy....but I don't FEAR him, like the governor in the comics (so I've heard). This guy just doesn't seem that evil. I was hoping that he would have done SOMETHING this epidsode to make us, as the audience, really fear him. With that being said, I thought it was important that he rape Maggie. Not that I "wanted to see it", but the governor needs to do something that makes me hate him, and to make me want to see him burn for all that he has done.

But nope. Lost opportunity. I'll continue to watch and know he's the bad guy simply by his comic book reputation alone.

This TV Governor is weak subsitute.

[hulahulk]

I hated him when he led the group that killed the soldiers.

[Romero]

So far, the slow boil of madness and evil hidden under the veneer of friendly is maybe worse than being out and out evil. He did kill those soldiers without a thought, he keeps zombie heads in his private room, he sent people to get Michonne, etc. Were he not a terrifyingly despicable nutcase, I don't think he would even THREATEN rape. I have read the comics and I am still perfectly fine with how they are depicting him here, and quite ready for him to get what may be coming to him.

And if I may be so crass- Andrea. Wow.

[graffiX]

I hated him when he led the group that killed the soldiers.

So far, the slow boil of madness and evil hidden under the veneer of friendly is maybe worse than being out and out evil. He did kill those soldiers without a thought, he keeps zombie heads in his private room, he sent people to get Michonne, etc. Were he not a terrifyingly despicable nutcase, I don't think he would even THREATEN rape. I have read the comics and I am still perfectly fine with how they are depicting him here, and quite ready for him to get what may be coming to him.

And if I may be so crass- Andrea. Wow.

Yes, and while those are horrible, horrible acts....they really are just your typical "bad guy" stuff. A Paint-by-numbers villain.

I need this governor to do something despicable to one of our beloved characters in Rick's group. I wasn't emotional invested in those soldier characters, or the characters whose heads are floating in those aquariums.

[idlewildered]

Yeah this was an ok episode. Let's see what next week brings.

I don't read the comics, but I've heard enough about them (I have friends that read them) to know that the Governor was a pretty scary dude in the comics. On the TV show? Different story.

I mean, yeah he's the "bad guy" but is he really that "bad"? Sure he has a collection of heads he keeps, and he is a shady guy....but I don't FEAR him, like the governor in the comics (so I've heard). This guy just doesn't seem that evil. I was hoping that he would have done SOMETHING this epidsode to make us, as the audience, really fear him. With that being said, I thought it was important that he rape Maggie. Not that I "wanted to see it", but the governor needs to do something that makes me hate him, and to make me want to see him burn for all that he has done.

But nope. Lost opportunity. I'll continue to watch and know he's the bad guy simply by his comic book reputation alone.

This TV Governor is weak subsitute.

A "weak substitute" for a character you haven't read................ I'll leave it at that.

Clearly we're seeing, at the core, a character directly opposed to Rick. A bad man, who is capable of good things as opposed to the other way around.

If the Governor was a transparent through and through villain the set up of Woodbury just wouldn't work.

As an avid fan of the comics I'm enjoying the differences here. I also have to admit concern over the statement: "important that he rape Maggie" and "missed opportunity".

[goof]

I wonder if the guy in the shack will get a webisode?

[MT2]

I have to admit, that I dont find the TV Governor as evil as the comic. But from what I see and think(not that its right by any means) is this story arch is more about Daryl and Merle than the evilness of the Gov. I wouldnt even be surprised to see Merle the one that kills the Gov. or leaves him for dead to protect baby brother. To me is clear that Maggie took Michonnes place in the comic but they just didnt take it as far. At the same time Glenn took over Ricks role and I have to admit for me that worked perfectly. Andrea's the biggest mystery this season I think it will be interesting to see how it plays out as she figures out who is attacking Woodbury. And as CM Punk said on The Talking Dead, how many of the towns people know how to use a weapon, its clear there best archer is less than great.

[idlewildered]

I have to admit, that I dont find the TV Governor as evil as the comic. But from what I see and think(not that its right by any means) is this story arch is more about Daryl and Merle than the evilness of the Gov. I wouldnt even be surprised to see Merle the one that kills the Gov. or leaves him for dead to protect baby brother. To me is clear that Maggie took Michonnes place in the comic but they just didnt take it as far. At the same time Glenn took over Ricks role and I have to admit for me that worked perfectly. Andrea's the biggest mystery this season I think it will be interesting to see how it plays out as she figures out who is attacking Woodbury. And as CM Punk said on The Talking Dead, how many of the towns people know how to use a weapon, its clear there best archer is less than great.

good point actually, we've only seen small groups using weapons................. with the Governor making sure with the soldiers that nobody could oppose him, he's clearly going to have done the same with his citizens. Use the fights to keep them docile, probably unarmed for the most part too.

They might be in for a kicking should they go up against the white hats.

[cybrestrike]

Glenn was a total bad ass this episode. The interrogation scenes with him and Merle were great. When good ol' Merle let the walker in there, I thought the kid was toast, but he's showed that he can take care of himself in a pinch.

The last ten minutes of the episode, with the music in the background...man...it's going to be a fantastic mid-season finale. So much buildup, so many ways Rick's raid could go. The only real dangerous Woodbury people seem to be in the Governor's inner circle, with most of the guards not really used to being in a fight...which I thought the compound bow girl demonstrated last week. Paramilitary wannabes, like Michonne described. Still with enough people shooting enough guns, numbers matter. I think this will be a stealth mission all gone to hell.

[SatanBigsby]

I thought the Governor "comforting" Maggie was insanely creepy, especially when it shows up again with Andrea. Great little detail that showed how bad he can be while staying away from going too gratuitous with the rape. This was just the first episode for Glenn and Maggie in captivity though. Just because something didn't happen last night doesn't mean that they've seen the worst of their time at Woodbury.

Spoilers: Thoughts on Daryl and Tyrese
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I really think Daryl's going to get beheaded this season. It'll be interesting if they do that to see how a TV audience reacts to something like that as opposed to how the comics audience did with Tyrese. I would expect a lot of people to freak out and maybe jump ship. That scene is pivotal to the series, in my mind, it'd be a shame if they weakened it. The slow hacking rather than a quick beheading was so shocking.

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[Tish-the-Scorpion]

Oh my gosh, the IMDB boards are ridiculous. So many idiots are complaining

Comic/Latest episode spoiler
spoilers:

about the rape not actually happening.

end of spoilers

which is weird cause it still might happen..