I know how to redeem Thor in the Avengers: he breaks out of his chains and teleports Ex Nihilo to another dimension and swiftly follows. Thor opens with a statement like,
"Long have I waited to test my full might against a foe. I have restrained my godly powers while I walk on the mortal realms out of fear of taking an innocent life, or even my opponent's life. For I value all life in the universe and love the mortals. But you... I have faced those with powers capable of shattering planets and tearing the heaven's themselves asunder. YOU will not receive my good mercy."
Thor beats Ex Nihilo to a pulp with all his powers and returns him to the mortal realms, or kills him.
I'm reserving major judgement for when his episode comes out, but I can't help but feel slightly uncomfortable with Thor's first scene in Avengers Initiative being him crashing to Earth, presumably after being defeated. Like I said, though, his ep isn't out yet, so there's a lack of context, but still...
Did Thor's showing in Avengers #3 sway anyone's opinions?
"I don't know how to please you Lord, but I think the fact I try to please you, pleases you."
Supes has to coexist with Captain Marvel and the various other superman analogs that have been picked up, Captain Atom, Wonder Woman, about a million Green Lanterns and in general a variety of heroes who have at one time or another been depicted as capable of things near, at or beyond his level.
Supes remains the guy - the guy who saves the day in all the Events, the guy to whom people look when all else has failed - despite all of that, not because his powerset is maintained as innately more powerful than the other ludicrous powersets running around, but because he's been one of their two most popular characters for decades and has an iconic status that can never be matched by most of the others.
If it's "Marvel's Superman" in terms of superman being the archetypal heavy-hitter among the typical set of heroes, then sure, Thor has been that.
If it's "Marvel's Superman" in terms of superman being inextricably vital to the line's image, then somebody like spider-man would be more "Marvel's Superman".
If it's "Marvel's Superman"in terms of leadership among the super-hero community, then it's Captain America.
If it's "Marvel's Superman" in terms of Big Events and soforth always being structured around the character's actions and/or reactions, then Marvel doesn't really have that guy. (More a rotating arrangement).
If Thor has declined in his fulfillment of that first criterion, it's probably due to just not having those other criterion present in the character as impetus to keep others from matching him, rather than any drive to neuter his powerset in and of itself.
Last edited by PupsOfWar; 02-04-2013 at 05:41 AM.
i just think people need to face the fact that thor isn't as powerful in his new incarnation as he used to be.
Displays of power seem to be the only thing many Thor fans are concerned with. I don't really get that.