Arrow

[G. Wayne]

Conceptually, Vertigo was fine. But Seth Gable's performance was just off the rails. He was trying to hard too play a comic book villain as opposed to just portraying a character.

I enjoyed it, actually. I thought the extreme personality was the best comic book portrayal they've done so far after Deadshot, and a nice change of pace compared to Deathstroke's Snake Eyes schtick (unless I've missed him speaking, then nevermind) or an extreeeeeemely loose reference like how they handled the Royal Flush Gang.

[Ness]

I hate the "no-powers" mandate being used outside of the Nolan-verse. I mean I get why Nolan wanted to tell more grounded stories and not use powers as another way to differentiate his films from the previous ones. I think the producers of this show are just trying to capitalize on that fact by making it similar. Although I could see Vertigo & Deadshot returning in season 2 with serious upgrades.

Is there any official rule within the universe though? I mean, I can see the tone they're going for and what they want to try and follow. It's Nolan's take on Batman. However, we're still only a little over ten episodes in. If the producers of the show wanted to go in a different direction and provide something a little bit more on the supernatural side, they can. There hasn't been any mention of someone like Superman within the show, but at the same time that doesn't mean he doesn't exist within Arrow's universe.

[kalorama]

Is there any official rule within the universe though? I mean, I can see the tone they're going for and what they want to try and follow. It's Nolan's take on Batman. However, we're still only a little over ten episodes in. If the producers of the show wanted to go in a different direction and provide something a little bit more on the supernatural side, they can. There hasn't been any mention of someone like Superman within the show, but at the same time that doesn't mean he doesn't exist within Arrow's universe.

The producers have said very clearly in multiple interviews that they're staying away from superpowers in the show. They said it in such a definite way that expecting them to change their minds and radically alter the direction of the show midstream is pretty much wishful thinking.

[90'sCartoonMan]

Not terribly impressed with the Count (and getting the name to fit was a REAL stretch), but at least they didn't kill him off.

I love Oliver playing so many roles. When he told the cop he was going to do something on his end, I was thinking it could be sloppy if the Hood ends up using police information to take down the Count. However, he's seen at the drug deal and openly admits it was him! And it kept them off his back! Smooth. I also thought it was hilarious that he said he ran out of sport's bottles so he used a syringe.

Not really. As they did with Firefly and the Royal Flush Gang, they could use the same name and basic motivation, but adapt it to fit the show's parameters. So same "Earth first" naturalist philosophy and eco-terrorist zeal, but no giant living vines.

Poison Ivy who uses poisons taken from plant toxins would work very well with this show. Although if they're going to do someone into poison, I'd prefer they use Cheshire.

But if you want an "ah-ha" moment . . . they just revealed that Thea's middle name is Deardon, the last name of the most recent incarnation of Speedy in the comics.

Mia Dearden, Thea Dearden Queen, it works. And I guess Thea using drugs is similar to what happened to Roy (which doesn't rule out him having a drug problem). Is it just me or is Thea's voice really weird?

[dupersuper]

Is it just me or is Thea's voice really weird?

I don't know about her voice, but she looked downright crazy when she was threatening to go to jail to spite her mother.

[tabo61]

Conceptually, Vertigo was fine. But Seth Gable's performance was just off the rails. He was trying to hard too play a comic book villain as opposed to just portraying a character.

I thought he was over doing it trying to act like Heath Ledger's Joker from Dark Knight.

[RockyBanks]

I enjoyed it, actually. I thought the extreme personality was the best comic book portrayal they've done so far after Deadshot, and a nice change of pace compared to Deathstroke's Snake Eyes schtick (unless I've missed him speaking, then nevermind) or an extreeeeeemely loose reference like how they handled the Royal Flush Gang.

I enjoyed it too. The series has played every villain as straight as possible up to this point, so seeing a campy, mustache-twirling, MWAHAHAHA villain is a refreshing change of pace. The Count kinda reminds me of Cesar Romero's Joker, and I can't help but smile at that.

I don't know about her voice, but she looked downright crazy when she was threatening to go to jail to spite her mother.

Sounds like she has some kind of speech impediment, and it catches me off guard from time to time.

[Phil Clark]

If the general public doesn't give a rat's ass about shared universes, then why should the studio put any particular emphasis or focus on handling the characters in a way the facilitates the creation of one?

Why? So they don't have to keep reinventing the wheel. People in general are starting to get really tired of the whole "reboot" process. Bond went nearly 50 years without doing a reboot of its stories. And Marvel (now that it is in full control of it's movie properties) has announced that it will change creative teams on the film franchises, and even change the main actors (a-la Bond), without rebooting the franchise. So they are not planning on having to reset and then retell all that they have already covered in future films.

DC really needs a visionary to map all this out so they can start doing things that build their brand, instead of rebooting everything for every film. They will go nowhere that way. But maybe thats what they want.

[Surtur]

I actually think the scenes with the Count in this latest episode stole the show. I'm usually not a huge fan of the actor and he didn't do anything mind blowing, but I still found myself enjoying his scenes more then anything else.

[DebkoX]

Just watched latest episode and enjoyed it. I was truly shocked to see that asian guy on the island isn't as he seems........

[JSA]

Felicity

That fake Count Vertigo, lame as hell
Gimme my real C.V. from Ostrander`s S.S.
now that`s the real one.

[lex1126]

Felicity

+1. the only reason why i look forward to the show every week. i hope she gets more air time after finding out olly is the green arrow!

[kalorama]

I'm no lawyer, but it seemed odd to me that, as part of her plea deal, the court would appoint someone to serve In loco parentis for Thea given that she (A) is 18 tears old, thus making her a legal adult and (B) has a mother who is both legally and medically competent to care for her.

As for The Count . . . He said that Vertigo affected the thalamus, which controls sensory and motor input to the brain. My guess is that the massive O.D. will end up severely damaging/destroying his own thalamus and that he'll be fitted with some kind of tech that's meant to take over its function and regulate his brains sensory input. But somehow he'll discover a way to project its effect outward, giving him the ability to distort and disrupt other people's sensory input. A close parallel to the comic character's origin.

[Legato]

+1. the only reason why i look forward to the show every week. i hope she gets more air time after finding out olly is the green arrow!

I know it goes against everything from the comics but screw it. I was hoping that she ended up as Huntress, instead of the bland one we've got instead.

[Nate Grey]

As for The Count . . . He said that Vertigo affected the thalamus, which controls sensory and motor input to the brain. My guess is that the massive O.D. will end up severely damaging/destroying his own thalamus and that he'll be fitted with some kind of tech that's meant to take over its function and regulate his brains sensory input. But somehow he'll discover a way to project its effect outward, giving him the ability to distort and disrupt other people's sensory input. A close parallel to the comic character's origin.

I'd dare say that's EXACTLY what will happen.