Wanda killed millions of mutants?

[carabas]

Marvel has avoided throwing any specific numbers out there but your 1.5 million being 10 cent would mean about 15 million. Weren't a large number killed on Genosha?
Which is the reason why TPTB at Marvel had to get rid of them someway because the numbers were becoming ridiculously large for the mutants to remain unique. Enter Bendis and House of M

But mutants aren't suppose to b in any way at all unique. They're a metaphore for minorities. You have to have millions of them for mutants stories to make sense.

[imperial90]

Marvel has avoided throwing any specific numbers out there but your 1.5 million being 10 cent would mean about 15 million. Weren't a large number killed on Genosha?
Which is the reason why TPTB at Marvel had to get rid of them someway because the numbers were becoming ridiculously large for the mutants to remain unique. Enter Bendis and House of M

About 16 million mutants died on Genosha, half the mutant population. M-day took care of most of the other half....

[SayOcean]

I do. I was actively reading the X-books at the time. This was before the internet and fan forums, but the consensus I remember was that X-men were a metaphor for homosexuality. I took flack for reading the books at the time from friends because of the general assumption.

The legacy virus clearly paralells the AIDs hysteria. To this day, there are still people who consider it a 'gay' disease. Not inteligent people, but still.

Edit:

This is why the movies featured scenes like offering a cure and having Iceman come out (as a mutant) to his parents. These are unique problems to the gay community, and rang true in the X-men mythos.

Dude, in the 60's 70's 80's there was no big AIDS scare, NO Legacy Virus so very little subtle homosexuality in X-comics....you know what was going on in the 60's and 70's...Civil Rights...get a clue man.

Wanda did not kill millions of alternate reality mutants because they don't count any more than the broccoli people or any other billions of sentient people Phoenix gets to kill and no one cares about.

You don't count

[klinton]

Dude, in the 60's 70's 80's there was no big AIDS scare, NO Legacy Virus so very little subtle homosexuality in X-comics....you know what was going on in the 60's and 70's...Civil Rights...get a clue man.

This is a silly thing to be arguing about. I thought it was pretty universally understood what exactly the X-men were.

I'm sure there were elements of the mutant struggle pulled from the Civil Rights movement, but the underlying references to homosexuality were there long before the Legacy Virus.

The simplest of these being the onset in puberty of one's 'mutant powers'. One does not become black after a childhood of being white. The allegory most closely resembles the plight of a gay or lesbian teenager.

[pepper]

You were implying that it was ridiculous to think people could die that way, but if you were a mutant it wouldn't be.

Thanks for putting words in my mouth. I wasn't implying anything. I was making a funny about the people that were inevitably going to reply with repetitive arguments like that, and how they ignore what I've said before, about the deaths being indirect consequences of Wanda's actions.

[Iron Maiden]

Dude, in the 60's 70's 80's there was no big AIDS scare, NO Legacy Virus so very little subtle homosexuality in X-comics....you know what was going on in the 60's and 70's...Civil Rights...get a clue man.

Ah, the hubris of youth that can't conceive of things that happened before gaining awareness. You do know that Freddie Mercury died of AIDS back in 1991, probably contracted in the 1980's. But the first big celebrity case was Rock Hudson who died in 1985. And yeah, there was a big scare because he kissed his co-star on Dynasty, Linda Evans. People speculated that she would get the virus too.

[vitruvian]

About 16 million mutants died on Genosha, half the mutant population. M-day took care of most of the other half....

Took care of as in depowered. A very small percentage died.

[vitruvian]

But mutants aren't suppose to b in any way at all unique. They're a metaphore for minorities. You have to have millions of them for mutants stories to make sense.

So, they never made sense until Genosha was introduced, then? Because before that, one got the sense that there were at most a few hundred or thousand worldwide. It was a big deal whenever a single active new mutant showed up on Cerebro.

Basically, you're saying that everything from Lee/Kirby through at least Claremont/Byrne made no sense.

[vitruvian]

Wanda did not kill millions of alternate reality mutants because they don't count any more than the broccoli people or any other billions of sentient people Phoenix gets to kill and no one cares about.

I wouldn't say either doesn't count, but with the multiversal/omniversal Chaos Wave, it's not clear whether the damage remained once Meggan sealed that breach. Also note that if the damage did remain, it was not done solely to mutants but rather to all the inhabitants of many alternate world, since it was a function of the House of M hex (for some bizarre reason, it's not like we haven't seen larger reality alterations without such wide repercussions) rather than the 'No More Mutants' hex.