View Poll Results: Which title(s) should Batgirl guest-star in again or for the first time?

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  • Batman

    19 25.00%
  • Batwoman

    14 18.42%
  • Catwoman

    11 14.47%
  • Grifter

    4 5.26%
  • Justice League

    12 15.79%
  • Nightwing

    30 39.47%
  • Red Hood & The Outlaws

    13 17.11%
  • Supergirl

    25 32.89%
  • Talon

    6 7.89%
  • Worlds' Finest

    18 23.68%
  • Other

    21 27.63%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Godlike13 View Post
    Enough with this "He was forced to use Batgirl", he was force to use the entire cast. Even Starling came about from editorial edict, to replace Lady Blackhawk. The book does seem like it definitely has some editorial problems and interference, but this "Batgirl wasn't even meant to be in the book" or "He was forced to use Batgirl" doesn't fly. They gave him the books cast from the start. Batgirl is far from BoP's problem, not that i think it has much of a problem, but it does seem like Swierczynski has been restricted by editorial in what he can do, and things he has to incorporate. Definitely felt it with the 0 issue.
    I mean it has to be hard to have pretty much no control on any of ur characters. Even BC, his lead character, they have her in Team 7, this book thats set in the past and establishing this whole new origin. Coming out almost a year after the launch of the New 52. Starling seems like the only character he can really do anything with. Honestly its just another thing showing how poorly planned this relaunch really was. So many thing are just so messy, and quite frankly i have come to like the New 52 a lot less as they've gone along now. Especially with the 0 issues, ive could have done without those.
    While I am not sure if this was directed at me or not. If it was, the whole "forced to use Batgirl" was not my main point. I also said he was force to remove a friendship, and I am sure forced to drop characters due to them joining or being used in other books, which made him rush a plot. My whole point was to say that Duane was forced to do a lot of things and change a lot of things, which is what you almost said. The stuff with BC origin was forced, which again helps my point.

    But I dont agree with the fact that he was forced to use anyone other the Batgirl and Ivy. Katana and Starling (while a replacement for Zinda still was a choice) were all a choice, and I am sure if he picked someone else and not Katana and Starling it would have been ok. Now while BC was kinda forced, it was not in the same way as Batgirl and Ivy were. It was in away that BC has always been in BoP so it has to be done. At least one BC or Batgirl had to stay and he picked BC, then was forced to add Batgirl later.

    I have no problems with Batgirl or Ivy or anything in his book, I am just over hearing that its all his fault when its not. Its a mix of faults if anything.

    But this is off topic really.

    So moving on.

    Do you think they would have to teach Supergirl english before there is a Batgirl and Supergirl team up? Or do you think it could work with out english?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Power Torch View Post
    But I dont agree with the fact that he was forced to use anyone other the Batgirl and Ivy. Katana and Starling (while a replacement for Zinda still was a choice) were all a choice, and I am sure if he picked someone else and not Katana and Starling it would have been ok. Now while BC was kinda forced, it was not in the same way as Batgirl and Ivy were. It was in away that BC has always been in BoP so it has to be done. At least one BC or Batgirl had to stay and he picked BC, then was forced to add Batgirl later.
    Im not stating an opinion here, they gave him a list of who they wanted on the team. That was his starting point. LoL, hell he didn't even know much about Katanna let alone pick her. The whole cast was editorial edict from the beginning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power Torch View Post
    I have no problems with Batgirl or Ivy or anything in his book, I am just over hearing that its all his fault when its not. Its a mix of faults if anything.

    But this is off topic really. So moving on.

    Do you think they would have to teach Supergirl english before there is a Batgirl and Supergirl team up? Or do you think it could work with out english?
    Yes please, the drift in conversation was interesting for a page but let's stay focused that this thread is about New 52 Batgirl's guest-appearances in other books, thanks! Why couldn't Barbara teach Supergirl english?
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    Quote Originally Posted by batGRRRl4ever View Post
    Yes please, the drift in conversation was interesting for a page but let's stay focused that this thread is about New 52 Batgirl's guest-appearances in other books, thanks! Why couldn't Barbara teach Supergirl english?
    It's not a big deal. I am using the Rosetta stone now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by batGRRRl4ever View Post
    Yes please, the drift in conversation was interesting for a page but let's stay focused that this thread is about New 52 Batgirl's guest-appearances in other books, thanks! Why couldn't Barbara teach Supergirl english?
    But does Barbara speak Supergirl's language?

    It's a bit hard to explain translations if two people don't understand each other. (Unless you're doing the "Me Tarzan, you Jane" method of speech.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by batGRRRl4ever View Post
    Yes please, the drift in conversation was interesting for a page but let's stay focused that this thread is about New 52 Batgirl's guest-appearances in other books, thanks! Why couldn't Barbara teach Supergirl english?
    I mean she could try, she is smart enough to pick up a few thing. If Superman can't teacher, I guess Batgirl would not be a bad pick. It would be harder but, I guess it could be done.
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    Barbara Gordon saves Swamp Thing's butt in Swamp Thing #15!:

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    "New Gotham"? Do I take it this a future storyline?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidekick77 View Post
    "New Gotham"? Do I take it this a future storyline?
    I believe an alternate future, but I can't swear to that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MajorHoy View Post
    I believe an alternate future, but I can't swear to that.
    Makes sense. I was more afraid that DC renamed Gotham in the reboot.

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    It may have nothing to do with this, but the city was referred to as New Gotham immediately following NML.
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    It's my understanding that in this alternate one-year in the future Rotworld that New Gotham refers only to the former batcave.
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    Ya its in the future, but the funny thing is Synder said its not a alternate future, it is the future. So its going to happen, but my guess is Swamp Thing and Animal Man will find away to stop the Rot, go back into the past and fix it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Power Torch View Post
    Ya its in the future, but the funny thing is Synder said its not a alternate future, it is the future. So its going to happen, but my guess is Swamp Thing and Animal Man will find away to stop the Rot, go back into the past and fix it.
    Maybe that's the thing . . . it's not an "alternate future" until something causes it not to happen?
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    Batgirl appearing in Nightwing 15:
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