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    Quote Originally Posted by Hariel0079 View Post
    I'm ok with the black outfit as it Bendis stated along the lines it has to do with Emma's mindset, so who knows it maybe meaning she's in mourning.... "darker" mentality who knows.

    UXM is suppose to be a darker book but not closer on anything like Dark Avengers. (well not that dark) Nor would I compare it to Remender's run of UXF.
    Well besides Magneto's sexy costume, the other three do look like they just came out of a horror film.

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    Meh, I think it's just has to do with the current mind set for them.

    Cyke big X and all.. most likely revolutionary stance and not to forget to mention he gave a huge "X" on the face to the warden and to Red Hulk in AvX.

    Emma.. is as I stated before. She probably is the mole but then again with Yana getting a boost.. I'm glad Bendis confirmed my suspicions on having some sort of plan for her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExodusCloak View Post
    Emma put herself in a psychic coma to survive the Sentinel blast. It's mentioned in the issue when she wakes up.
    I always found that a little iffy. A sentinel blast should disintegrate a normal durability person (see Wolverine in DoFP), don't see how putting yourself into a coma helps at all. But that's superhero comics for you I guess.

    Quote Originally Posted by airdreams View Post
    Interesting to know that they planned to put Cyclops, Emma and Magneto on their own title already during Schism. Will be fun too see if Magneto really tries to be a father figure for Scott and Emma. (Magik too of course, but that's more expected).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ButterRum View Post
    Lol Matt Fraction and Ed Brubaker slayed the character.

    I agree she has gone through some...different changes though. I'm glad he's aware of that, but how can anyone not be? All we've been hearing since UXM 500 is how OOC Emma has become.

    And so Emma sees herself as the new Negasonic Teenage Warhead?



    I don't like Emma in black. It's like putting Captain America in red and yellow with clothes made from China! I'm sure it's temporary for a year or two. Emma has to come back to white!
    LOLOLOLOL

    Does it mean… Emma doesn't see her as the White Queen (of the X-Men) anymore? She always seems to be very proud of that title… let alone the suggestion of Christian, who influenced her profoundly.

    According to her utterance ("maybe we do belong in prison"), perhaps she begins to consider herself as a criminal (she really is a fugitive lol) and tries to seek forgiveness, acceptance and redemption. That's not very Emma-y I guess but I'd like to see it happening.

    Quote Originally Posted by nikbackm View Post
    Interesting to know that they planned to put Cyclops, Emma and Magneto on their own title already during Schism. Will be fun too see if Magneto really tries to be a father figure for Scott and Emma. (Magik too of course, but that's more expected).
    I'm excited about that too! Emma and her father figure lololololol. Winston Frost was by no means a good father but… Magneto was even worse…
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikbackm View Post
    I always found that a little iffy. A sentinel blast should disintegrate a normal durability person (see Wolverine in DoFP), don't see how putting yourself into a coma helps at all. But that's superhero comics for you I guess.
    I don't think it actually blasts her though, it's scanners think she's dead.

    Also the Black is cause she's PunisherEmma now.

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    Emma in her own way has always tried to earn acceptance amongst the X-Men but only got a few. The things that hinder Emma to achieving such things is in part her character traits. Emma has tried to seek forgiveness in the past and then some but she's not like rogue who sorta threw herself at Xavier. Emma is Emma, as I've argued in the past post AvX Emma can't really be her anymore and expect things to fall in place. Her on UXM is fine but with how she feels about cyke... And bendis dialogue (which I'm not expecting much) I can see constant banter from her which will get old really fast! Also a big fear at that. ( big reason I'd like to see her bouncing between books like ANXM and UXM)

    Emma stating they belong in prison and blaming Scott for their downfall (flip side she isn't excusing her actions either and blaming the PF as well) gives me the hint she didn't want it to be like this. All her efforts prior with the X-men have gone down the drain. Emma lost her TP which adds to her character if not sorta defines her personality now we're going to see how she'll start acting now. I still think with the loss of her TP she's getting a trade off of some kind but that's just my speculation.


    Emma also probably aids cyke not because of him but agrees with "mutant rights" not so much "revolution" as it leaves me with a similar impression of AvX. I think by the 50th anniversary the X-men will come together, have 2 schools cause of the influx of mutants and villains cause the current rate I don't see cykes plan lasting to long. (Seclusion and Hiding)

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    I mean Emma tries to seek forgiveness, acceptance and redemption of the whole MU, including the X-Men, the Avengers and even the public, due to what she has done after getting the PF.

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    the woman has been through some gigantic traumatic things. some have happened to her and some she did to herself. she did some awful things last year. all of this will be examined.
    Quote Originally Posted by ExodusCloak View Post
    I don't think it actually blasts her though, it's scanners think she's dead.

    Also the Black is cause she's PunisherEmma now.
    You mean Emma will seek revenge on Scott? I hope she won't do this 'cause it reminds me of the whole Maddie Pryor thing…
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikbackm View Post
    I always found that a little iffy. A sentinel blast should disintegrate a normal durability person (see Wolverine in DoFP), don't see how putting yourself into a coma helps at all. But that's superhero comics for you.
    What I always figured was the early Sentinel models it was actually the extreme shock of pain to your nervous system that actually killed, hence how so many characters could take full blasts snd not be smoking husks afterwards. So since Emma went into a comma her senses were dulled so much that she didn't feel it. The same thing happened with Jean that issue as she took a blast from several sentinels at once, but since she sent her mind to Emma's body it only looked like she was sleeping.

    My head canon is that the sentinels wised up to the fact their blasts weren't foolproof and upgraded themselves to just vaporize foes by DoFP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by airdreams View Post
    I mean Emma tries to seek forgiveness, acceptance and redemption of the whole MU, including the X-Men, the Avengers and even the public, due to what she has done after getting the PF.





    You mean Emma will seek revenge on Scott? I hope she won't do this 'cause it reminds me of the whole Maddie Pryor thing…


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    And yet Emma still judges

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hariel0079 View Post
    And yet Emma still judges
    True enough, but even the best of people are rarely that introspective. Besides, as you suggested, rather hoped for, earlier, now is when she begins to become more introspective. So we should give her a few more issues!

    Overall, I was happy with the Bendis interview. I meant to get over here sooner but I was delayed. He says he likes Emma, Scott and Magneto, good for him! I'm very interested in this. Bendis saying Magneto is trying to "teach" Emma and Cyclops, almost as a "do over" with his [Mag's] own kids? Very exciting. It makes me believe more and more Bendis has a roll for Emma to play in the Ultron War "resistance" or w/e.

    In any case, I'm excited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExodusCloak View Post
    I don't think it actually blasts her though, it's scanners think she's dead.
    Still, not the best self-defense strategy, would probably be have been better to get the hell out of there or behind someone/something a little more durable. The Sentinels could for example have blasted her just to make sure instead of taking time to scan her life functions first. Not to mention the high chance of getting caught in cross-fire just lying there.

    But I think the psychic coma was a later rationalization. At the time this was written it seemed the idea was that she had moved her mind into another body. At least that was the theory of Xavier and Storm in later issues. Nothing ever came of that of course.

    Quote Originally Posted by ariwl1 View Post
    What I always figured was the early Sentinel models it was actually the extreme shock of pain to your nervous system that actually killed, hence how so many characters could take full blasts snd not be smoking husks afterwards. So since Emma went into a comma her senses were dulled so much that she didn't feel it. The same thing happened with Jean that issue as she took a blast from several sentinels at once, but since she sent her mind to Emma's body it only looked like she was sleeping.

    My head canon is that the sentinels wised up to the fact their blasts weren't foolproof and upgraded themselves to just vaporize foes by DoFP.
    I guess that could work (disregarding that some Hellions only required a single blast to die). Though the Sentinels used used other weapons including hitting their targets very hard. Not so prudent to assume they would always go for the harmless electro-blast!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldgeller View Post
    True enough, but even the best of people are rarely that introspective. Besides, as you suggested, rather hoped for, earlier, now is when she begins to become more introspective. So we should give her a few more issues!
    Emma Frost is quite introspective. She wasn't chastizing Xavier for his misdeeds. She was telling him to accept it and move on and stop making excuses. It's the same here. She's telling Magneto to shut his mouth because he isn't any better. Emma knows what she is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikbackm View Post
    I guess that could work (disregarding that some Hellions only required a single blast to die). Though the Sentinels used used other weapons including hitting their targets very hard. Not so prudent to assume they would always go for the harmless electro-blast!
    Lol true... if my memory serves me right, after being killed Jetstream's corpse seemed like being roasted in the same issue. Guess Sentinels were able to unleash the fatal fire- or electro-blast too.

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    http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/2532/2518858-avx_zone__008.jpg

    http://i45.tinypic.com/34rvxgl.jpg
    I'd love to see Emma becoming the Nemesis of mutants (a gorgeous one though lol).
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikbackm View Post
    I guess that could work (disregarding that some Hellions only required a single blast to die).
    Actually that's what I meant. Emma and Jean likely would have died in their respective encounters with sentinels that issue but since their minds were either dulled to the sensation of the pain or elsewhere entirely they were able to avoid it.

    Since the poor Hellions were all wide awake and had no such defense against the attacks they died from the intense shock to their systems. At least that's how I see it.

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