Morrison Recommendations

[T Hedge Coke]

1234 had some of the best Morrison hype before it came out. He just hit the most salacious points, the most painful or awkward points, and messageboards and comics shops squirmed in the funniest ways. How incestuous things got so fast in FF, how everyone was attracted to doubles of who they couldn't have, how many different ways the central four could interlock, how helpless these extraordinarily powerful people were. (Johnny and Ben are fire and earth, natch, but is Sue air here and surrounded by water because that's Reed and attracted to Namor not for his fiery vanity that echoes her brother, but his water qualities... or is she water, and that's why she can douse the other three, finds affinity with Namor, and has the water issue... the permutations don't lock up, they just roll on.) Gorgeous, poetic comic, and the symbolism and echoes go so deep, rippling through the whole and beyond.

The first FF comics since the very first to give me that angry, sick, off-kilter feeling so strongly, and nothing really did, since, until Unstable Molecules.

[TheDonAbides]

I agree with all you say except the bit I highlighted (I'm a big triangle era fan). Still, when you add all the JLA stuff you mention (most of which Bats was right there for) it makes the comment 10 times as stupid as it already was.

"The last time you inspired anyone was when you were dead."

"But...I've since lead the JL, wrestled a rebelling King Angel, returned the moon to its orbit, defeated Megaddon, went with you to the 853rd century for celebrations of my own far future selfs return from the heart of the sun (where he'd built a solar fortress of solitude after circumnavigating the universe: 1 that powered all of my descendants), was appointed leader when we gathered to fight in Zero Hour, shoved Warworld (1 made of the original Pluto) through a boom tube to stop Imperiex and Brainiac 13, defeated the leader of the Hyperclan 1 on 1 (being selected to address the world right after), was the first to overcome Know Mans brainwashing, talked a reborn Parasite into turning himself in, got married, got turned into an energy being that was split in two and still saved the Earth (getting turned back to normal in the process), made it rain in No Mans Land, defended Kismet from Dominous, discovered Hypertime, convinced the Tribunal to reform their justice system, hunted Doomsday down, fought the Elite in front of the world...not to mention, y'know, returning from the dead in the first place. I've been to the big bang a second and third time since I returned to life, and the end of time once as well. All in addition to just generally flying around saving people most every day..."

"Nope, not since you were dead."

I love you. Thank you for this.

[Concept Coop]

"Only humans could make something kinder and better than themselves that makes them smarter than God in my opinion."

The Filth was great.

I think people were scared off by the deliberately scary stuff it begins and gets thicker with. It's an easy comic to pick up, but a hard one to finish. And, every review tells you it's confusing and weird and can't be understood, which I gather people then begin to believe.

Warren Ellis summed up the whole "Morrison can't be understood" business best, I think:

"Since most people who cite a 'convoluted mess' in regards to Grant's work turn out not to be able to pass a high school English comprehension test, said citation tends to be viewed as comedy.

"I still hear people talking about how they didn't understand THE FILTH."

But, it's the people who are intelligent and capable who still find this or that confusing that interests me, because they may have a good point.

Finished The Filth last night. I must say, as a man that considers himself educated and intelligent, anyone that criticizes someone for not "getting" the book needs to come off their high horse.

After reading the last 30-40 pages a second time, and trying to sort it all out after the fact - I think I got it. But it clearly isn't an easy book to understand fully after the first read.

I don't want to spoil it for anyone stubling on this, so I won't go into details. But, again, not easy to put the entire puzzle together after one read.

[batman23]

I have all of his Batman run so far, one more issue left to get for Seaguy, recently picked up Animal Man and now I'm working on getting the Seven Soldiers trades.

What should I pick up next?

[Mr. Holmes]

I agree with all you say except the bit I highlighted (I'm a big triangle era fan). Still, when you add all the JLA stuff you mention (most of which Bats was right there for) it makes the comment 10 times as stupid as it already was.

"The last time you inspired anyone was when you were dead."

"But...I've since lead the JL, wrestled a rebelling King Angel, returned the moon to its orbit, defeated Megaddon, went with you to the 853rd century for celebrations of my own far future selfs return from the heart of the sun (where he'd built a solar fortress of solitude after circumnavigating the universe: 1 that powered all of my descendants), was appointed leader when we gathered to fight in Zero Hour, shoved Warworld (1 made of the original Pluto) through a boom tube to stop Imperiex and Brainiac 13, defeated the leader of the Hyperclan 1 on 1 (being selected to address the world right after), was the first to overcome Know Mans brainwashing, talked a reborn Parasite into turning himself in, got married, got turned into an energy being that was split in two and still saved the Earth (getting turned back to normal in the process), made it rain in No Mans Land, defended Kismet from Dominous, discovered Hypertime, convinced the Tribunal to reform their justice system, hunted Doomsday down, fought the Elite in front of the world...not to mention, y'know, returning from the dead in the first place. I've been to the big bang a second and third time since I returned to life, and the end of time once as well. All in addition to just generally flying around saving people most every day..."

"Nope, not since you were dead."

[Clark_Krunk]

His New X-Men run is badass, I'd go with that. It works extremely well as one complete story.

OMG is it ever... its so silly good I mustve re read it 10 times.....

Grant's works that I love


JLA Rock of Ages (amazing)
Fantastic Four 1234
All Star Supes
Animal Man
Final Crisis (also amazing) don't listen to the haters who didn't understand it
Flex Mentallo

I need to just read all the Invisibles now