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    Kevin Nash, still stuck in the past and has his panties in a bunch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legato View Post
    I can expect this from TNA but from a billion dollar company?
    It surprised me as well....
    I hope wwe changes.... But Im not holding my breath.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gryhpon View Post
    Grantland.com has published a lengthy article on the life and controversial wrestling career of Kevin Nash, who has begun to gain traction in Hollywood. A notable point in the article has the six-time world champion reiterating his stance on "Vanilla Midgets," a dismissive term he used as booker in the late '90s in World Championship Wrestling to describe small-statured, gifted technical wrestlers who didn't project larger than life personalities but were beloved by fans, such as Chris Benoit, Eddie Guerrero and Dean Malenko. "Big Sexy" feels the professional wrestling industry died in 2004 at WrestleMania XX when WWE's "Super Bowl" concluded with the under six foot tall grapplers reigning supreme and emotionally celebrating. Even though both wrestlers are now deceased, he still believes they never belonged in the main event scene due to their small stature.

    "When Benoit and Guerrero hugged [at the end of WrestleMania XX], that was the end of the business," Nash says. "Has business been the same since that WrestleMania? Has it come close to the Austin era? Has it come close to the nWo or the Hogan era? You put two fucking guys that were great workers that were the same height as the fucking referees, and I'm sorry, man. Are you going to watch a porno movie with a guy with a three-inch dick? Even if you're not gay, you will not watch a porno movie with a guy with a three-inch dick. That's not the standard in porno films. So you put a 5-foot-7 guy as your world champion."

    Nash has the same problem with today's "Internet heroes," CM Punk and Daniel Bryan.

    "They are not bigger than life," he says. "I bet they could both walk through airports and not be noticed unless they have a gimmick shirt on and the belt."
    What else would you expect a 6'10" guy to say? I mean, find a wrestler who won't claim that they embody exactly what's missing in pro wrestling these days. If you asked Austin Aries, he'd tell you that smaller, more athletic wrestlers are what need to be in the prime spots. It's kind of a dumb thing to do, but literally every wrestler says stuff that pumps them up in an attempt to sell themselves to promoters.

    Secondly, the "vanilla midget" thing only really applies to little guys with no personalities. That's what the "vanilla" refers to. If a wrestler can project their personality, they can be a star and draw money.

    Quote Originally Posted by Legato View Post
    I can expect this from TNA but from a billion dollar company?
    They're not doing anyone any favors keeping guys around who they aren't using. Other than Linda McMahon, of course. But for everyone else, they're just being underused and underpaid, and getting mad about it. But maybe this will work out for JTG. He's standing up for himself, which could either get him a push or released, and I'm betting either one would be fine with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clayholio View Post
    What else would you expect a 6'10" guy to say? I mean, find a wrestler who won't claim that they embody exactly what's missing in pro wrestling these days. If you asked Austin Aries, he'd tell you that smaller, more athletic wrestlers are what need to be in the prime spots. It's kind of a dumb thing to do, but literally every wrestler says stuff that pumps them up in an attempt to sell themselves to promoters.

    Secondly, the "vanilla midget" thing only really applies to little guys with no personalities. That's what the "vanilla" refers to. If a wrestler can project their personality, they can be a star and draw money.



    They're not doing anyone any favors keeping guys around who they aren't using. Other than Linda McMahon, of course. But for everyone else, they're just being underused and underpaid, and getting mad about it. But maybe this will work out for JTG. He's standing up for himself, which could either get him a push or released, and I'm betting either one would be fine with him.
    Vince has a history of looking more closely at talent that speak up. Jericho and others inlcuding cena and miz come to mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gryhpon View Post
    WWE have signed former Storm Wrestling graduate Tom La Ruffa to a developmental deal with the company, which was announced on La Ruffa’s official Facebook account.

    Tom was featured on the first season of Lance Storm’s World of Hurt reality TV series and appeared on WWE television last year in a 3 on 1 handicap match against The Big Show.

    He has already relocated to Tampa, Florida and is expected to start training with Florida Championship Wrestling in the coming weeks.
    YES YES YES YES YES YES!
    They signed the mother fucking French Stallion!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    YES YES YES YES YES YES!
    They signed the mother fucking French Stallion!
    Im not familiar with him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gryhpon View Post
    Im not familiar with him.
    He was the highlight of the first season of World of Hurt, he was great in the ring and was the best heel on the show by far.
    He also was a jobber in a match with big show a while ago, with two other guys, where he showed more personality and took better bumps than every jobber they have used since the glory days of jobbers.
    Awesome, just awesome.

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    BTW, still waiting for Nash to blame the fact that he was one of the lowest drawing champs in the history of WWE (number 2, i beleive) because he spent most of it working with the 5 11, 200 lbs vanilla midget HBK.
    And the reason WCW went down was because they had to keep putting workers on tv.

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    Btw, heres the French Stallion episode of World of Hurt.

    Easy to understand why he was signed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    Oh, and Meltzer finaly got pissed about people citing things as "from the observer." due to the high number of stories on mma sites talking about how Brock and Ryback fought, and attributing it to his site, when he never said anything about it, ever, except to say it didn't happen.
    I find it humorous that some mma news sites, when Brock 'broke' hhh's arm were reporting it as real.

    Quote Originally Posted by gryhpon View Post
    Grantland.com has published a lengthy article on the life and controversial wrestling career of Kevin Nash, who has begun to gain traction in Hollywood. A notable point in the article has the six-time world champion reiterating his stance on "Vanilla Midgets," a dismissive term he used as booker in the late '90s in World Championship Wrestling to describe small-statured, gifted technical wrestlers who didn't project larger than life personalities but were beloved by fans, such as Chris Benoit, Eddie Guerrero and Dean Malenko. "Big Sexy" feels the professional wrestling industry died in 2004 at WrestleMania XX when WWE's "Super Bowl" concluded with the under six foot tall grapplers reigning supreme and emotionally celebrating. Even though both wrestlers are now deceased, he still believes they never belonged in the main event scene due to their small stature.

    "When Benoit and Guerrero hugged [at the end of WrestleMania XX], that was the end of the business," Nash says. "Has business been the same since that WrestleMania? Has it come close to the Austin era? Has it come close to the nWo or the Hogan era? You put two fucking guys that were great workers that were the same height as the fucking referees, and I'm sorry, man. Are you going to watch a porno movie with a guy with a three-inch dick? Even if you're not gay, you will not watch a porno movie with a guy with a three-inch dick. That's not the standard in porno films. So you put a 5-foot-7 guy as your world champion."

    Nash has the same problem with today's "Internet heroes," CM Punk and Daniel Bryan.

    "They are not bigger than life," he says. "I bet they could both walk through airports and not be noticed unless they have a gimmick shirt on and the belt."
    Big Poochie putting himself over, who'd thunk it?


    Quote Originally Posted by Genki Sudo View Post
    Kevin Nash, still stuck in the past and has his panties in a bunch
    OMG Kevin Nash! thought he was dead.

    Everytime I see him mentioned I think of that quote.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    BTW, still waiting for Nash to blame the fact that he was one of the lowest drawing champs in the history of WWE (number 2, i beleive) because he spent most of it working with the 5 11, 200 lbs vanilla midget HBK.
    And the reason WCW went down was because they had to keep putting workers on tv.
    When He had the book, wasn't he responsible for having an hour of just him and Hogan talking.
    Send anyone you want. Just don't send anybody you want back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tank View Post

    When He had the book, wasn't he responsible for having an hour of just him and Hogan talking.
    the company started to fall off when he gave himself the belt, just throwing that out there.

    Meltzer thinks Nash is working, his match with HHH was shit, he knows it was shit, and he wants to present himself as a guy who hates the small guys, mentioning punk and bryan, because he thinks he can have a good match with Punk or Bryan.
    Now, he probably does legit beleive what he's saying, but the fact that he said it in public is probably a calculated move.
    PErsonaly, i think Bryan can have a great match with anyone, Punk...eh, he had good matches with Kane but Kane is leaps and bounds above Nash.

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    Nash is shit it the ring. But on the mic He dose have talent. I just wouldn't but him on tv.


    I think a good rule should be that if you are in charge in the back you shouldn't have the belt.
    Send anyone you want. Just don't send anybody you want back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tank View Post
    Nash is shit it the ring. But on the mic He dose have talent. I just wouldn't but him on tv.


    I think a good rule should be that if you are in charge in the back you shouldn't have the belt.
    I kinda don't hold with that opinion.
    He wasn't horrible, but when people talk about how good he was, they don't mention TNa, they don't mention WWF nwo, they mention his last wwe run as an example of him sucking.
    The time he was considered good he was with Scott Hall, who was really good, and i think they get combined together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    the company started to fall off when he gave himself the belt, just throwing that out there.

    Meltzer thinks Nash is working, his match with HHH was shit, he knows it was shit, and he wants to present himself as a guy who hates the small guys, mentioning punk and bryan, because he thinks he can have a good match with Punk or Bryan.
    Now, he probably does legit beleive what he's saying, but the fact that he said it in public is probably a calculated move.
    PErsonaly, i think Bryan can have a great match with anyone, Punk...eh, he had good matches with Kane but Kane is leaps and bounds above Nash.
    One, Didnt nash say he wanted to be brought in with a new nwo with punk as leader or as a mouthpiece for a younger wrestler? 2. Kane when given a chance can actually work a 4 1/2 star match.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gryhpon View Post
    One, Didnt nash say he wanted to be brought in with a new nwo with punk as leader or as a mouthpiece for a younger wrestler? 2. Kane when given a chance can actually work a 4 1/2 star match.
    I think Nash was just fantasy booking.

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