The Neo Sapiens Or the Century Babies?

[Mr. Holmes]

He can turn into a frog with a tutu if the writers want him too.

My point.

The version Morrison presented didn't seem to have any personality (not even when his mother died) and is only interested in finding the other Neo Sapiens.

He had personality, it was just an emotionless one, which was the point of the character.

A lot less interesting than the previous version.

I never found the previous version to be interesting.

[Kyle Anderson]

My point.

Your point is that they can change the character? Wow, that really contradicts what I said about not liking this version. Silly me, thinking that if they change him again it would be yet another version of the character.

He had personality, it was just an emotionless one, which was the point of the character.

So, you want another Dr Manhattan?

[Mr. Holmes]

Your point is that they can change the character? Wow, that really contradicts what I said about not liking this version. Silly me, thinking that if they change him again it would be yet another version of the character.

Alright I'm not going to debate with people that have reading comprehension issues.

So, you want another Dr Manhattan?

Personality-wise, sure.

[FIFTY-TWO (52)]

Damn, I didn't realize that the "First Superman" was supposed to be Captain Comet.

[Harbinger of Apocalypse]

I wonder if anyone will use the Neo Sapien idea in the future after Morrison leaves. Captain Comet did say that there are five KNOWN Neo Sapiens and they are seemingly like him in that they are highly evolved humans born thousands of years before their time. So, that suggests that humanity will eventually end up like them but at the moment they are a minority few. Kind of contrasts with the Century Babies that are born every century or so...

[Kyle Anderson]

Alright I'm not going to debate with people that have reading comprehension issues.

So, you're a jerk? Should have been treating you like one before.

Personality-wise, sure.

Yes, because reading about people with super-powers and without feeling is so interesting...

No need for answer, I'm not interested in talking with you anymore.

[Mr. Holmes]

I wonder if anyone will use the Neo Sapien idea in the future after Morrison leaves. Captain Comet did say that there are five KNOWN Neo Sapiens and they are seemingly like him in that they are highly evolved humans born thousands of years before their time. So, that suggests that humanity will eventually end up like them but at the moment they are a minority few. Kind of contrasts with the Century Babies that are born every century or so...

There were more than one 20th Century Babies between Planetary and Authority.

[Kyle Anderson]

I wonder if anyone will use the Neo Sapien idea in the future after Morrison leaves. Captain Comet did say that there are five KNOWN Neo Sapiens and they are seemingly like him in that they are highly evolved humans born thousands of years before their time. So, that suggests that humanity will eventually end up like them but at the moment they are a minority few. Kind of contrasts with the Century Babies that are born every century or so...

The old Captain Comet was 'born a hundred thousand years before his time'.

[Mr. Holmes]

So, you're a jerk? Should have been treating you like one before.

Yeah blame me for misinterpreting everything I say.

Yes, because reading about people with super-powers and without feeling is so interesting...

Yes it can be an interesting concept, that's why Watchmen was successful.

[Kyle Anderson]

Yeah blame me for misinterpreting everything I say.


Yes it can be an interesting concept, that's why Watchmen was successful.



You being butt-hurt over what I say won't affect my responses

Not butt-hurt, you're simply an idiot that gets off insulting people online. Not the kind of people I like talking to. But let me explain again:

You said he could do much more than fight Superman. Morrison's version has one goal: gather the Neo Sapien, and since one of them is the niece of Lois Lane Superman will probably not simply sit and watch. If the writers want him to do more than that, they will have to change him from something different of what Morrison intended. So he will not be the same. Do you understand, genious?

Watchmen was sucessfull as a mini-series, where Dr Manhattan was simply part of a larger cast. An ongoing with a character like Dr Manhanttan? No. Oh, and did you actually read Watchmen? Most of Dr Manhattan part was either before he got powers or simply him accounting what people around him did and how little he felt about those things.

[hunter_peterson]

You said he could do much more than fight Superman. Morrison's version has one goal: gather the Neo Sapien, and since one of them is the niece of Lois Lane Superman will probably not simply sit and watch. If the writers want him to do more than that, they will have to change him from something different of what Morrison intended. So he will not be the same. Do you understand, genious?

Watchmen was sucessfull as a mini-series, where Dr Manhattan was simply part of a larger cast. An ongoing with a character like Dr Manhanttan? No. Oh, and did you actually read Watchmen? Most of Dr Manhattan part was either before he got powers or simply him accounting what people around him did and how little he felt about those things.

Actually, Comet was trying to save the other neo-sapiens from the oncoming threat of the Multitude, like how the Collector was going to preserve Metropolis. The Oort-kind are probably a reference to the hypothetical Oort-field of meteorites that surround the solar system, acting as a an ablative shield against larger objects. His spaceship being The Comet, it is likely he normally has a protector of the outer solar system type role, but is back on Earth to build a defensive force of others like him. So he's not exactly limited in scope, really. AND he did seem to care about what was going to happen, but like Superman said, he went about helping in the wrong way. His feelings of alienation and rejection also paint him as far from emotionless, just disengaged from humanity.

Now, that's somewhat similar to how Doctor Manhattan's altered perception of time slowly cut him off from his humanity, but neither is emotionless. Manhattan is self-aware enough to be sadly resigned to his loss of feeling, which is what makes him compelling. He also changes his mind about that later on and becomes fond of life. Emotionless is an oversimplification on the part of both characters, I think...

[Mr. Holmes]

Not butt-hurt, you're simply an idiot that gets off insulting people online. Not the kind of people I like talking to. But let me explain again:

LOL you definitely are. You're throwing insults more deliberately than I ever did. I was annoyed at you completely misunderstood everything I said. In hindsight, yes I could have been more civil about expressing that and I would apologize, but now you've gone off the rails.

You said he could do much more than fight Superman. Morrison's version has one goal: gather the Neo Sapien, and since one of them is the niece of Lois Lane Superman will probably not simply sit and watch. If the writers want him to do more than that, they will have to change him from something different of what Morrison intended. So he will not be the same. Do you understand, genious?

If you're going to use condescending attacks, at least learn how to spell genius.

He doesn't just have to be involved with recruiting Lois's niece. There are other neo-sapiens out there, leave alone that future story can reveal more about the character and give him something else to do or that the Oort Kind and the Cometteer provide so much potential for back story mythology.

Watchmen was sucessfull as a mini-series, where Dr Manhattan was simply part of a larger cast. An ongoing with a character like Dr Manhanttan? No. Oh, and did you actually read Watchmen? Most of Dr Manhattan part was either before he got powers or simply him accounting what people around him did and how little he felt about those things.

The fact that Dr. Manhattan's story was finite doesn't limit the potential of any other character that's remotely similar. In fact, I like the Dr. Manhattan similarity. The whole point of this run is reconstructing Superman, so it's great to contrast him with a character that was meant to be his deconstructed analogue.

[Superlad93]

Actually, Comet was trying to save the other neo-sapiens from the oncoming threat of the Multitude, like how the Collector was going to preserve Metropolis. The Oort-kind are probably a reference to the hypothetical Oort-field of meteorites that surround the solar system, acting as a an ablative shield against larger objects. His spaceship being The Comet, it is likely he normally has a protector of the outer solar system type role, but is back on Earth to build a defensive force of others like him. So he's not exactly limited in scope, really. AND he did seem to care about what was going to happen, but like Superman said, he went about helping in the wrong way. His feelings of alienation and rejection also paint him as far from emotionless, just disengaged from humanity.

Now, that's somewhat similar to how Doctor Manhattan's altered perception of time slowly cut him off from his humanity, but neither is emotionless. Manhattan is self-aware enough to be sadly resigned to his loss of feeling, which is what makes him compelling. He also changes his mind about that later on and becomes fond of life. Emotionless is an oversimplification on the part of both characters, I think...

Thank you very much for clearing that up for everyone. I actually wanted to come on and say something like this but u articulated it so well that I am left with nothing to do but agree:)

I will also add that at the end of the fight he was transported away to his ship which was in a place to far away the sun looks like a small star. So it's not like space adventures couldn't easley be had. Also he was far from a villain as was said on here. All he wanted was to give the future of mankind a fighting chance this clashed with Superman's idea of saving everyone. Lois's niece was NOT the reason Superman fought at all....he only found out during the fight really.

Emotionless? Just cuz he doesn't shake his fist in the air and say 'noooooo' when his mom passes does not mean he is emotionless at all. On the page u can see that he and his mom are at peace with things (note smile on both faces) he is sad but not out of sorts he makes his peace with things......his dad does not. This brings us to his resentment of lower humankin.

Finding the rest of his kind is more than just a mission it is to sate his loneliness. He constantly talks about humans as 'monkeys' and what not but only holds respect for his kind.

Hero, anti-hero, or villan. He can be anyone of these at this point and it would make sense.
Lol looks like I did have something to add after all:)
Neo sapiens btw lol

[hunter_peterson]

Thank you very much for clearing that up for everyone. I actually wanted to come on and say something like this but u articulated it so well that I am left with nothing to do but agree:)

Thanks! Compliments are nice.

On topic, I actually prefer Century Babies. I would like to see more than the Jenny series of Spirits of the Century show up, though. It's an easy way to introduce characters without having to give long explanations for their origins, but also allowing for complex backstories due to their being ageless. They're like mutants that share a birthday!

[Kyle Anderson]

LOL you definitely are. You're throwing insults more deliberately than I ever did. I was annoyed at you completely misunderstood everything I said. In hindsight, yes I could have been more civil about expressing that and I would apologize, but now you've gone off the rails.

Yeah, go back to the part where you start insulting me.
And maybe you should read your posts. I did so and if you think I misunderstood you, it's probably because you explain yourself badly.

If you're going to use condescending attacks, at least learn how to spell genius.

Yes, attack the spelling of the guy that's not even american. That should win the fight for you.

Like I said before, I've seen more posts of you. You obviously get off insulting and attacking people. You can see right here, a few posts above, someone who disagrees with me and somehow managed to said that in a polite way (actually partly changing my opinion), the same way I was talking to you. See where I stoped quoting? That was as far as I read. I have no interest in your opinion.