Who's the Stongest? (most powerful)

[Robbie_Jee]

Help me out here. Who would win out of these match ups?

KAREN GRANT or SUE GRIMM/STORM
IRONMAN or The BEETLE
The R.H.I.N.O or OMEGA RED
THOR or BEN GRIMM
The HULK or KITTY PRYDE
IRONMAN or CAPTAIN MAHR-VEHL
COLOSSUS or CAPTAIN AMERICA
KITTY PRYDE or KAREN GRANT
GAH-LAK-TUS or The (newly independent) CHILDREN OF TOMORROW
XORN or The HULK
QUICKSILVER or MAGNETO
BLACK PANTHER or NAMOR
MILES MORALES or NORMAN OSBOURNE
XORN or GAH-LAK-TUS
SHE-HULK or COLOSSUS

[Time_to_Zap]

My winners!
Sue Storm- her force fields have really grown powerful, almost like a beefed up version of telekinesis lately, esp. in "Ultimate Enemy."
Iron Man- Spider-Man could hold his own against the Beetle, while Iron Man is Iron Man. ;)
The Rhino- Omega Red's really not that tough or agile.
Cap- He always wins.
Kitty- I bet she could, like, mess up Karen's telepathy by really quickly going back and forth from tangible to intangible, making her brain hard to "grab."
The Children- If modern American society could figure out a way to hurt Gah Lak Tus, the Children could find a way to kill him.
The Hulk- He really can't be beaten.
Quicksilver- Superspeed should allow him to quickly get to Magneto and dodge any magnetized stuff his father would throw at him.
Namor- Water control, super strength, speed, flight...Ultimate Black Panther is just a poor man's Cap.
Norman Osborne- Miles really isn't that great at fighting yet. Even if he tried to sneak up on Norman, Norman could just throw fireballs everywhere until he got lucky.
Gah-Lak-Tus- Xorn is just one mutant. Gah Lak Tus presented a problem for the entire world.
Colossus, IF he was on Banshee- The strength under Banshee should be greater than She-Hulk's. If not, Betty wins.

[Wolverine12]

Karen Grant she can trick the entire world including Sue Storm
Iron Man, Beetle is cool but Tony always seems to win. For proof read Ultimate Comics: The Ultimates #12 doesn't make sense but he won
Thor, Grimm is weak sauce compared to a God.
Hulk no contest
Colossus, he beat Thor and Iron Man
Karen Grant, see above
Gah Lak Tus
Xorn he already beat him
Magneto, he's already crippled Pietro with looming self doubt and loathing
Namor
Osborne
Gah Lak Tus
Colossus

[ImmortalIronFist]

Has what Ben Grimm can do now actually been explored?

[MrV]

Has what Ben Grimm can do now actually been explored?

Nope. We only know if Ben were to battle Sue, he would win as he can easily break through her force fields when glowing purple. However, I'm not fond of domestic violence and we already had a couple beat each other badly in the infamous The Ultimates #6: Giant-Man VS. Wasp.

[sage6paths]

I'm sure either Zorn or Xorn can beat anyone. Zorn has the power of a black hole there is not that much you can do against it. Xorn if we are speculating has the power of a Star so there is that. If they fought each other they would probably be equals.
Gah-Lak-Tus has already been beaten so there's that.

But the strongest would be in my opinion. Mephisto. From what is shown he can raise the dead an ability like that can devastate anyone if he revived Magneto, Peter Parker, Wolverine or the many other's that died.

[MrV]

KAREN GRANT or SUE GRIMM/STORM
Karen easily beats Sue. Using telepathy she can cast illusions and easily make Sue want to commit suicide, put her to sleep, disable her powers, or even regress her mentality to that of a child (or switch her mind with Spidey's).

IRONMAN or The BEETLE
Despite Beetle being powerful, Ironman has access to his tumor Anthony, who can easily mess up Beetle's software.

The R.H.I.N.O or OMEGA RED
R.H.I.N.O wins. Omega Red has potential, remember he can spread toxins, but RHINO's full body armor protects him from anything.

THOR or BEN GRIMM
Stalemate. It is unfair to judge Ben, considering he can do more things now when he turns purple. Also, Thor is far less powerful now that he is not connected to Yggdrasil anymore. Thor is not a god, he is an extraterrestrial!

The HULK or KITTY PRYDE
Hulk is a super adaptoid, as seen in Ultimate Human, so he can survive any density changes that Kitty hits him with. She could phase through him and then become solid, thus damaging his internal organs badly, but Hulk would adapt to that within seconds. If Kitty phases out his heart, he would adapt to survive without one easily. Final verdict: Hulk Smash Kitty!

IRONMAN or CAPTAIN MAHR-VEHL
Hard one. Mahr-Vehl's Kree technology is undeniably more advanced, but considering Tony got his hands on his stuff back in the Gah Lak Tus trilogy (most likely), he reversed engineered it ages ago. Ironman gets the win using his tumor Anthony or even his super virus from Ultimate Armor Wars.

COLOSSUS or CAPTAIN AMERICA
Cap would get the win. Remember an ordinary human like Falcon was able to beat Colossus by taking advantage of the fact the metal guy's eyes are still vulnerable.

KITTY PRYDE or KAREN GRANT
No contest, Karen beats Kitty as well.

GAH-LAK-TUS or The (newly independent) CHILDREN OF TOMORROW
Considering Reed beat Gah Lak Tus, we can assume his Children would beat the parasite as well.

XORN or The HULK
Rematch? Xorn is a telepath like Karen. No contest here. Mind over matter and Xorn wins again!

QUICKSILVER or MAGNETO
If Pietro is not restricted by his emotional state, he could beat his father by stabbing him in the heart with a spike or something, while moving at the speed of light.

BLACK PANTHER or NAMOR
No contest here, Namor would shred this lame Wolverine rip-off in seconds. Heck, Namor beat the Fantastic Four all on his own!

MILES MORALES or NORMAN OSBOURNE
Norman OSBORN? Well, as Norman even I could beat him with a kick to the balls. As Green Goblin though, the boy would need to use his camouflage and hit him in the balls with Venom Strike in order to truly get the upper hand. Since Miles has luck powers like Longshot, he would win eventually.

XORN or GAH-LAK-TUS
Gah Lak Tus beat Professor X, the most powerful telepath alive. Xorn would succumb before he could reach the entity. Now, if you mean his twin ZORN, then he would suck in Gah Lak Tus in seconds and end the confrontation with minor human casualties.

SHE-HULK or COLOSSUS
Here the victory would go to She-Hulk, who is well-known for plucking men's eyes out.

[Trallis]

These are some crazy matchups.. I gotta know what made you think of these

Here are my answers:


KAREN GRANT or SUE GRIMM/STORM - This is a good matchup. I'd imagine this fight would end without either person touching the other. I think Sue Storm would win because she's been forced to come up with so many unique ways to use her powers and she's gotten really strong. I don't know how powerful Karen Grant's mind controlling powers are, because in my one actual experience reading her, her appearance in Ultimate Fallout, she was unable to prevent a father from killing his mutant child. This kinda makes me think she can only be strong telepathically if she really focuses and can't do it instinctually.
IRONMAN or The BEETLE - No idea. Haven't read any beetle action yet
The R.H.I.N.O or OMEGA RED - No experience with these guys either
THOR or BEN GRIMM - Ohh good matchup. I don't think Thor's lightning would have any effect on Ben, especially now. Their strength might be a fair match. I think Ben Grimm has a good chance because he has unnatural powers the extent of which have not been tested. Thor right now doesn't have the use of all of his powers as a God.
The HULK or KITTY PRYDE- What's the Hulk gonna do to Kitty? It doesn't matter how much brute strength you have if your opponent can't be hit. It'd take a really intelligent opponent to beat Kitty. I'd imagine she could easily lure him into throwing himself over the edge of something or she might just mess with him until he gets frustrated and runs off to smash something else. Beating Hulk wouldn't be easy but not losing to him would be easy for Kitty.
IRONMAN or CAPTAIN MAHR-VEHL - Iron Man. I don't know who's the better fighter but I love Ultimate Iron Man so I gotta go with him.
COLOSSUS or [B]CAPTAIN AMERICA - Captain America. He's beaten enemies in the past who seemed untouchable.
KITTY PRYDE or KAREN GRANT - Karen
GAH-LAK-TUS or The (newly independent) CHILDREN OF TOMORROW - Children of Tomorrow. Not alone though. They would need a strong telepath to do what Xavier did.
XORN or The HULK Xorn. Any highly intelligent fighter could beat Hulk
QUICKSILVER or MAGNETO - Magneto's dead man!
BLACK PANTHER or NAMOR I'm gonna go with black panther because I hate Namor. As long as they don't fight in the water..cat's hate water. but who fights in the water?
MILES MORALES or NORMAN OSBOURNE Norman's dead man! but if he was alive Miles could beat him. He's shown that he can fight pretty damn well.. and he also has the invisibility and venom blast that Peter didn't have. The only way Norman was able to get Peter was by ganging up on him with other serious threats.
XORN or GAH-LAK-TUS Gah-Lak-Tus
SHE-HULK or COLOSSUS - no idea.

[Robbie_Jee]

These are some crazy matchups.. I gotta know what made you think of these

I wanted to know who posters thought would win in certain battles whilst making the match up's similar in power-level to make it as challenging as possible for you guys.



KAREN GRANT or SUE GRIMM/STORM - Karen would easily defeat Sue in my opinion. They both have the power to instantly explode each others heads like water balloons. But it all comes down to who would do it first. I think it would be Karen because she would have the ability to 'sense' out Sue via telekinesis and do it before Sue's even found her.
IRONMAN or The BEETLE - Beetle's hard but he ain't no IronMan. Tony would most definetly find a way to beat him, no doubt about it.
The R.H.I.N.O or OMEGA RED - I think the Rhino would win because I believe him to be more powerful, durable and more of an unstoppable force in comparison to Omega Red.
THOR or BEN GRIMM - This is a tough one. I'd really like to see Ben win but Thor may have the advantage due to having a weapon. Still, I'm gona go for Ben.
The HULK or KITTY PRYDE - I don't think either would properly win but if there was a time limit I'd say that Kitty would win by points simply because she'd never get hit.
IRONMAN or CAPTAIN MAHR-VEHL - IronMan. He's the master of tech.
COLOSSUS or CAPTAIN AMERICA - Cap would find a way.
KITTY PRYDE or KAREN GRANT - Karen would melt her mind or rip her apart into pieces.
GAH-LAK-TUS or The (newly independent) CHILDREN OF TOMORROW - I'm going to say Gah-Lak-Tus because I think that if the swarm ever returned it would be so much more deadlier than before. It would take every hero, every superhero organisation and every bit of might to destroy it.
XORN or The HULK - If his brother can beat the Hulk, so can he.
QUICKSILVER or MAGNETO - Quicksilver because he wouldn't get hit.
BLACK PANTHER or NAMOR - I'd like Black Panther to win but because of Trallis' brilliant observation that cats hate water, Namor wins hands down. :}
MILES MORALES or NORMAN OSBOURNE - At this moment in time Norman would crush him easily.
XORN or GAH-LAK-TUS - Gah-Lak-Tus. However Xorn would get some damn good hits in. If Zorn can create black holes, I'd imagine Xorn can create small suns, and discharge them into the swarm, destroying hundreds of ships at a time. But Gah-Lak-Tus would still win.
SHE-HULK or COLOSSUS - She-Hulk.