Edit: Oh, and furthermore, Logan definitely did lie. Unless you think he told Cap he was going to try and gut Hope when he got to Utopia.
Last edited by gregyo; 08-03-2012 at 01:18 PM.
Plot: AVX TIE-IN! - Logan leads his own team of classic X-Men into battle! - The Jean Grey School sees its first graduate!
Last edited by Hariel0079; 08-03-2012 at 01:36 PM.
So yea, your not using fact, your hyperboling and your omitting. Kudo's you served my previous point on your hatred on a character.
I'm just talking about the comic book, so I would appreciate it if you stopped with the personal attacks.
Then again it takes a fool to know a fool.
Actually, I didn't see a personal attack anywhere in Hariel's posts. Hariel just said that you were ignoring facts and using hyperbole because of a personal bias against Logan. That's not a personal attack. And in all actuality, Hariel's right about the situation. For one, from the beginning, Logan said that the Phoenix Force was too unstable and too dangerous. Based on what has happened in AVX (with Hope on the moon and based on how the X-men are acting now), Logan was 100% right. It's bringing out the dark sides of everyones' personalities. You seem to forget that the whole reason why Logan attempted to kill Hope in the first place was because he thought the Phoenix Force was going to over-power Hope and cause her to turn Earth into Ash and Cinder. You act as if he was just being blood-thirsty and that there was no legitimate reason behind it. Logan was proven right on the moon, because the Phoenix Force DID prove to be too much for Hope to handle at that time and she almost fried EVERYONE. Since the Phoenix Force left Hope, Logan has not even threatened Hope once. If anything, he has been protecting her recently and has been shown to be worried about her general welfare. This shows that the only reason he tried to take her out in the first place is because he thought that she would be a danger to planet Earth in that condition. That's exactly how he's looking at Scott now. We as readers can see that Scott has a pretty good grasp on things because we can see the whole picture, but to Wolverine, Scott's just a ticking time bomb right now. He thought that Scott was a ticking time bomb BEFORE he got the Phoenix Force, so in Logan's mind he's 10x worse now.
Wolverine was also proven right several times in the last couple of issues when Namor attacked Wakanda, Emma brain-fried a man, and Magik created limbo on Earth, started throwing Avengers in it, and tortured them. The Phoenix Force has been bringing forth the darker side of the P5's personalities, and Cyclops is the only person that seems to have any kind of handle on it at all. I'm not saying that Wolverine hasn't been a bit of a jerk in certain situations regarding this, but he has told the absolute blunt truth about things and has been proven right more often than not in this series. We all know that Wolverine's stance is that if something is threatening the safety of the world that it should be destroyed...even if he's the one that's threatening it. If you remember in House of M, Wolverine said that if he ever lost control and was threatening the world that he expects the heroes to kill him. So "protect the world/innocents at all costs" has always been a part of his character. That doesn't make him the bad guy. He just views the world differently because of all of the things that he has been through.