EXCLUSIVE PREVIEW: Bendis & Deodato's "New Avengers" #29

[Rheged]

Somebody help me out here. Did Tony Stark say in that preview that he knew all this would happen? If so, what a dick.

Sure sounds like it.

I think he just meant that he knew Namor would go crazy at some point.

No, Stark is pretty specific on what he thinks he 'knows' about Namor.

[Lascoden]

Oh hell. The most dangerous team in the M.U. is back together. Brace yourselves everyone, the world is gonna burn!

Reading the line "They gather to stop the horrors of the Marvel universe before they happen…", made me think: Did they actually succeed in stopping any threat? They failed to stop SI, CW, and WWH. In fact, they made all of those worse. Did they have any sort of positive effect?

[Hariel0079]

You know, you'd think that the writers would have thought the fact that even with the Phoenix that they can't restore mutantkind would have been something to have been dealt with at some point rather than cutting to them changing the world considering that restoring mutantkind was the entire reason they wanted the Phoenix to begin with. It just makes it seem like they forgot about the very reason they started fighting to begin with.

Many say the writers stated that the P5 can't do it and only Hope can (I have yet to see that statement yet)

[Zen-aku]

Reading the line "They gather to stop the horrors of the Marvel universe before they happen…", made me think: Did they actually succeed in stopping any threat? They failed to stop SI, CW, and WWH. In fact, they made all of those worse. Did they have any sort of positive effect?

they took the Infinity gems out of circulation, turned Marvel boy good, and dealt with he beyonder before he became a threat again

[pepper]

I actually liked the dialogue! Unfortunately, it's still plagued by decompression (those 4 pages could have just been 2 panels) and poor characterisation.

Many say the writers stated that the P5 can't do it and only Hope can (I have yet to see that statement yet)

Anyone have any theories as to how Hope can do it, yet?

[Lascoden]

they took the Infinity gems out of circulation, turned Marvel boy good, and dealt with he beyonder before he became a threat again

Those first two kinda backfired, and is a continuing problem (Namor, who they are discussing here, has one, and that could be a problem). Not sure about the Beyonder thing, hasn't that been ignored or something, since it muddied his backstory?

[Lascoden]

Anyone have any theories as to how Hope can do it, yet?

UNIT theorized that she's a specially designed host, made exclusively for removing spells such as "No more mutants". So, it's a sort of "destiny" thing.

[Zen-aku]

Those first two kinda backfired, and is a continuing problem (Namor, who they are discussing here, has one, and that could be a problem). Not sure about the Beyonder thing, hasn't that been ignored or something, since it muddied his backstory?

it been ignored cause they solved the problem

also i don't see how marvel boy backfired, even the questionable things hes done he has had earths best interest in mind

[Ravin' Ray]

He's welcome to TRY.

But I don't think Black Bolt is going to have anything to do with AvX.

Maybe, but Rheged remember how future Franklin told Black Bolt he has to return to Earth coz something big will happen there, and readers started speculating it might be the Phoenix?

[Lascoden]

Maybe, but Rheged remember how future Franklin told Black Bolt he has to return to Earth coz something big will happen there, and readers started speculating it might be the Phoenix?

Seems a little late in the game to introduce another major player, such as the Inhumans, into this, doesn't it?

[Zen-aku]

Black bolt doesn't have an infinity gem any more

[aNamored]

Fraction mentioned something to the effect, though I'm not sure I totally agree with that assessment. But while Namor STRONGLY disagreed with the Illuminati plan -- I think that's where he tried to drown Tony ... again, AFAIK, for no on panel reason, he didn't actually warn Hulk that they were planning to shoot him off into space. Of course, that could have ruined Planet Hulk and World War Hulk, and who cares about how that made Namor look, right?

Wow, Namor tried to drown Tony (what a visual.) You're right: if Namor said something that would have kaboshed those Hulk series.

So the Illuminati aren't the best crisis handlers are they? Sometimes, the most intelligent people are the worst decision makers.

[EuphemismForSex]

Seems a little late in the game to introduce another major player, such as the Inhumans, into this, doesn't it?

Not really.

Reed was introduced like... last week if you consider his Fantastic Four appearance his introduction into AvX, and really... That means Black Bolt was also introduced then. (Or two weeks, I don't remember

Actually nvm, that came out a lot longer ago than I realized)

[Lascoden]

Not really.

Reed was introduced like... last week if you consider his Fantastic Four appearance his introduction into AvX, and really, if you do... That means Black Bolt was also introduced then. (Or two weeks, I don't remember)

True. Though, is Reed really going to be playing a role in AvX, outside this? They had the prophecy in F4, but that was geared more towards BP, right?

[Hariel0079]

I actually liked the dialogue! Unfortunately, it's still plagued by decompression (those 4 pages could have just been 2 panels) and poor characterisation.



Anyone have any theories as to how Hope can do it, yet?

No, just going off the fact that the PF was meant for her and thats it.