I really don't know how anyone can even keep a straight face when arguing against valid observations of Marvel's messed up mishandling of Black males in their books.Originally Posted by marvell2100
Bendis messed up Voodoo and Cage both overtly and covertly but managed to convince some that he was down with diversity just because hr had cage front and centre as the New Avengers steel skinned punching bag.
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11-28-2012, 03:46 PM #4606Member
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Somedays, I'm quite the humanitarian.
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11-28-2012, 03:56 PM #4607CYCLOPS WAS RIGHT!!!
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AND Bendis gave an "out" for death for Hellstrom and Kale, but NOT Victoria Hand. I was so sad reading that whole issue... it was a BAD day for diversity. Originally Posted by Kid Kamikaze10
Agreed. And not just for Cage, but for ALL the Timebolts. Originally Posted by Mr MajestiK
I would disagree about Jericho. I don't think (in the long run) it would have done more harm than good. It definitely made his profile bigger, he got a mini-series; and made Remender a fan (so hopefully down the line, he can reappear). I think Jericho not coming back at the end was shocking, and WRONG... but in the long run... I do think Bendis helped Jericho's career. Fingers crossed. Originally Posted by Mr MajestiK
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11-28-2012, 04:07 PM #4608CYCLOPS WAS RIGHT!!!
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I think this is a little too conspiracy theory for my tastes. Regardless of how it ended, Luke was the star of New Avengers for over 5 years; and because of that focus got a mini-series and to lead the Thunderbolts (for over 30 issues!!!). Jericho's profile was vastly increased by being made Sorcerer Supreme; and he got a mini-series. It's not all doom and gloom; and both BENEFITED from Bendis, even if it ended... less than we would have hoped... Originally Posted by Onyenkwere
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11-28-2012, 04:07 PM #4609Were You There?
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There is a silver lining, though, in that mystical characters are really easy to bring back. Especially ones named "Brother Voodoo".
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11-28-2012, 04:31 PM #4610Veteran Member
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Does any1 here watch NCIS:Los Angeles starring LL Cool J?
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11-28-2012, 04:35 PM #4611Doc Strange In The Range
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Hopefully someone makes good on bringing back Heroes For Hire.
My Heroes For Hire: Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Misty Knight, Colleen Wing, The Falcon, Ant-Man (Scott Lang). White Tiger IV and Powerman would be interns.
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11-28-2012, 05:06 PM #4612Imagination and Bravery
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Totally forgot Victoria Hand was confirmed as dead too.
Yeah, that was absolutely stupid.
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11-28-2012, 05:07 PM #4613The Professional.
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Makes it official. Bendis is taking his toys and going home. Originally Posted by Kid Kamikaze10
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11-28-2012, 05:42 PM #4614Veteran Member
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Pretty much. Originally Posted by marvell2100
Really, Bendis needs to stay the hell away from all magic characters.
Especially Brother. Voodoo.
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11-28-2012, 06:12 PM #4615The Ag equals Silver
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Originally Posted by Michael P
Nope. He's a character of color, namely a Black one.
The rules of magic don't matter in his case. All that matters is that it happened.Those who refuse to learn from History, will repeat History as they wonder "What the F*ck happened?"
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11-28-2012, 06:40 PM #4616Veteran Member
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I've seen it on occasion. Originally Posted by SilverZeal
Its not bad. LL and the old leader lady are the beat characters in the thing.Last edited by Vic Vega; 11-28-2012 at 07:04 PM.
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11-28-2012, 06:43 PM #4617Senior Member
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Heh heh. Voodoo's book was canceled so fast that everybody has retconned it in their memories to being a mini...
Fanboy (il)logic: If a character who is not a "classic" Justice Leaguer or Avenger gets any panel time whatsoever, he/she is being "shoved down our throats".
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11-28-2012, 07:08 PM #4618Chaotically Neutral
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that's how i feel about it. Cage used to easily be in my top 3 characters list. and Daniel Drumm was a straight up punk in this finale. Originally Posted by Onyenkwere
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11-28-2012, 07:48 PM #461913 Time Rita's Champion
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Just do a new Powerman & Iron Fist series. Pair up Cage and Rand as heroes for hire and all...the series could write itself. Originally Posted by Brandon McKinnis
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Sucks 200 character limit.
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11-28-2012, 07:53 PM #4620Moderator
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Yeah, a Cage and Rand series seems like a no brainier to me.
Plus great guest stars like Misty, Jess, Coleen, Shang Chi and maybe some Immortal Weapons. I mean...that's guaranteed to kick ass, right? As close to a guarantee as you can get anyways.
Rumor now that Bendis and Deodato may be doing something like a Heroes for Hire book. I'm there if so.
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