Minorities and Other Issues in Comics Thread/Community IV

**Jabare** · 11-02-2012, 09:45 PM

Ninja Assasin was okay calm down. The Plot wasn't that inspired, like it was adapted from a generic manga or something. But the cinematography was good. The work they did with the shadows was very nice. Overall it was better than my expectation.

Naomi Harris basically had to carry the movie in terms of acting, which isn't a bad thing she can really act. Pirates of the Carribean, Ninja Assasin now the new Bond. You go Naomi. But the acting wasn't bad.

**Genki Sudo** · 11-02-2012, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by Jabare

Ninja Assasin was okay calm down. The Plot wasn't that inspired, like it was adapted from a generic manga or something. But the cinematography was good. The work they did with the shadows was very nice. Overall it was better than my expectation.

Naomi Harris basically had to carry the movie in terms of acting, which isn't a bad thing she can really act. Pirates of the Carribean, Ninja Assasin now the new Bond. You go Naomi. But the acting wasn't bad.

Don't forget the godfather of ninja movies Sho Kosugi, why him and his sons aren't more known over here is mind boggling( not really but they should be more known )

**Jabare** · 11-02-2012, 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by Genki Sudo

Don't forget the godfather of ninja movies Sho Kosugi, why him and his sons aren't more known over here is mind boggling( not really but they should be more known )

yeah he is a boss. Didn't mean to disrespect him. He was awesome in that movie how could I forget. Without him the story wouldn't have been nearly as stron

**Omegastorm** · 11-03-2012, 12:12 AM

Originally Posted by Genki Sudo

Never called her a whore and you know it, go and find a post where I did, I'll wait

You didn't but others have and they just came to Storm thread to do it. But we will get to that.

Bloody hell you're dense as you missed the part of my post where I mentioned alternate reality shenanigans

We will get to that in a second.

Really, it had no baring on the story arc that happened after it where Frenzy still reeling from it left Utopia because she didn't want to be near Cyclops because in that reality they were lovers? It had no baring on O because she immediately had her memory of it erased so that she would be written as not having to own up to it? I see your reaction to defending all of that besides ignoring it is to falsely say myself and others are calling her a slut and other names( with no evidence ). You can ignore the two facts I've pointed out( one was even addressed in a ongoing arc ) but they are there no matter how much you want to ignore it

Actually she did own up to it that's why she and Namor had them erased. They were memories from another dimension that had no bearing on this one. Do you want her to to own up to it or not?

What we can't say how she's being written even though there's proof right there on the page, you yourself just said you called BP a bad husband even though you where shown proof that he is not, myself and others have pointed out when BP has been written badly in relationships but yet we can't do so for her? You can't have it both ways in your grand pursuit to paint her as the patron saint of all things good in a comic page. I don't have a excuse I see her being written like one of the ladies from a reality show and I point it out that she's being written that way and make it a point to say the writers need to be taken to task, all you see is me being mean because I'm not being positive about the back handed way she's being written. I see her "fans" being more then happy that is happening because now she's "free" of that bad BP character who's been holding her back and now she can be herself again in the arms of a flagship character because they've been written as flirting here and there while ignoring that she hasn't even been divorced for nothing but a hot minute but hey people love Wolverine and he's more known then that king from a fictional country and is from the same franchise who's had more women then damn near Tony Stark. That's not a double standard or anything

For the record I am responsible for my posts and the two or three Storm fans on this board that support her being with Logan are not me. I don't want them together in a relationship. I am not a Rolo, them being together is yuck. I don't want her with a child murderer. I just don't.

She hasn't even done anything close to that in any x-book not written by Brian Wood, I didn't see her strategize on how to stop the Avengers during AvX yet I don't see you mentioning that in fact all I ever see you and your running buddies do is put all the blame on BP. I have seen her strategize with him in McDuffie's F run as well as being BP's equal and then some under Priest's pen, in the BP's books I've seen her save his life more then once and even strategize on how to take out Kraven The Hunter before she had to be taken away because she was need apparently in the x-books......where she wasn't used other then to just be wallpaper but I never see you or anyone in the x-boards say anything about that, just complaints about how BP has wronged her so much

I realize you don't frequent the Storm board but after Gillen's dismal and pathetic rendition of her people there don't like him. Considering she was out feeding the world and did not know about avengers, why would I want her to strategize for that? She was against fighting them the whole time. I blame Bp for invading Utopia first, and I do blame Storm for Aaron's abysmal fight scene in AvX 5. That fight between them was stupid. We all complain about Fraction and his wack ass writing. We gave Gillen a chance and he did alright at first and then flamed out. Aaron has been writing her poorly since the Black Panther SI issues. McDuffie's run in FF isn't a black panther book and he did a great job. My posts haven't included him because this is about two camps Panther and X. The FF were great and he did a great job.

We both know that's you not me

No not really.

I'm sure in your mind you did but you didn't really, I don't recall any of you trolling any Hercules thread or even going to voice this displeasure in the main marvel board as you have done continuously if it involves BP. Hell until now that has never been brought up

You can't have it both ways. I did complain about it and just because I did not go to his board doesn't negate that. I am the one that brought it up to complain about it. I get your point that my criticism wasn't as intense for Hercules. But that doesn't mean there was none.

For a day after that it was back to BP bashing as usual for you folks

I wonder why?

That is character damaging? That is a lame argument and you know it.....wait no you don't

The reason it's a character issue is because it points to competence, her ability to... nevermind.

Of course he was the only one out of the x-writers to use her in a remotely positive light( while good it's arguable as a whole if his run is actually good or boring ) so you all rested your hopes on him and got dashed for it

I didn't get dashed at all. His Storm was excellent, and he's not quite done yet.

**Omegastorm** · 11-03-2012, 12:14 AM

He's not but it again shows how narrow minded you fans are if all you can recall of her being written in a positive light is if the book has a big X on it as myself and others have pointed out when she's been written very well in books outside of that but you refuse to acknowledge that unless you begrudgingly have to

I have acknowledged McDuffie's great contribution. Hudlin even had some great moments with her but when you throw in all the mistakes ranging from her not knowing how to use her powers in space, to killing indiscriminately with no thought or consequences to her voice being diminished by Aaron and others it's easy to see where other folks are coming from.

Seems you missed what I said about it, not surprised

False and I've said that more then once but again you have heard what you wanted to hear so to speak so I'll say it again( even though I know I've told you this before on multiple occasions before yourself and like minded bashers like you made me leave her appreciation thread ). I like her but since the x-office has no plans to use her in any form of a positive way other then as a "white male fantasy" tool there's no point in me buying a book to support that just because a character I like is in it but it's easier to take that as me saying I don't like her isn't it.

Right? Whose white male fantasy? How? Please back this up a little. It's better when she's a black male fantasy? I want her to have her own fantasies apart from the concerns of black or white men. It's weak sauce that this about you perceiving her as a fantasy object when she's really a subject and that's all about you. It's not about her. The fact is you won't see it.

Given the current track record in the x-books fate has not been kind to her but hey keep hope alive as Messy Jessie( Jessie Jackson )

Hudlin killed that hope for me during that ridiculous proposal and never restored it.

It's funny as you ignored what Bendis did to her during the short Avengers run in favor of just pumping your chest to say she is a Avenger( and toss shade on BP for being the voice to recommend her as good or bad as that was ) and will also ignore Aaron as right now he is also one of the ones who wrote her in a great way and being a strategist before he wrote what you all wanted in the versus issue( a scene from it was even your avatar ) but then him saying he wants to deal more with the marriage would strike fear in a marriage hater as well and opt to ignore that book huh

This is where it starts for you. The whole pulling stuff out of your butt. I did the opposite of what you were saying. I always reticent of Bendis writing her and said so quite a bit. Only after a few days of saying that over and over and over again did I relent and decide it's a good thing. That did not mean that I trusted Bendis to do anything as a matter of fact I never trusted him. I thought from the beginning that he would screw it up and he did.

It fit how she was being written, if a character is being written as a douche bag( Stark for example ) people have said he's being written as so. It was deemed calling her that was inappropriate but it's obvious despite all that you're still holding a grudege and can't let it go ignoring yourself and others calling BP far worse( even calling out his fictional manhood )

It's not that big of a grudge. I haven't ignored anything that anyone has called Bp, but since I we are having this discussion the worst thing I have ever said is calling him a bad husband. That's it.

Again false, no one has called her that, it may have been said she's written like one but since so far the solicits point to her doing that and we haven't seen it no one has called her that......other then yourself

Drook did and so did Franscisco. he evens says he hates her. All of those posts have been deleted by mods so I can't post them. But let's keep going here, Kid K and others have questioned her blackness and he will actually admit to it. Flex Hectic called her a door knob repeatedly. So what are you talking about?

False and I've pointed it all out already. If anyone has had free reign in calling another character names it has been yourself and others from the x-boards which I've pointed out already( that's not even including the implied stuff you all were trying to get to )

Unlike you I can own to other people calling the panther names. They did and sometimes they are funny. I shouldn't encourage them and I should stick up for him more.

Seeing as how we've had to put up with you and your perceived false slight I have asked a lot of the mods of how you and others are still able to post with all the negativity and trollish behavior you've all done when I'm not being told to play nice in the continued effort to coddle you, must be nice to be high on that horse with a air of obliviousness surrounding you

Perceived right? Look I get this has been on your mind for a while now so you are finally expressing what you feel. Questioning Storm's blackness was stupid. There was no reason to do it. I am so grateful for you coddling me. Please notice my sarcasm. It's kind of funny how that obliviousness you say I live in doesn't apply to you when it's been shown repeatedly that Hudlin did a poor job with Storm's characterization from having her strip butt naked and play the goddess to killing indiscriminately to distoriting her character to fit into his style of writing. The funny thing is I really enjoyed his take on her during House of M. That lulled me into a false sense of security where I thought he was capable of actually writing a decent Storm. He had his moments of writing Storm well and those were fleeting. But enjoy your back issues of the house wife, I am glad that's over. I look forward to Storm continually challenging the men in her life and not putting up with their crap. You don't, I don't get that but ok. If that's your idea of a white male fantasy figure you really don't get Storm at all.

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**Genki Sudo** · 11-03-2012, 02:56 AM