Ultimate Spider-Man #13 SPOILERS/Discussion!

[Don Yoyo]

Don't you think that Cap feels really bad about that? I would think so. And now, he's going to treat this thirteen year old kid, who is only trying to do good by the way, badly and he doesn't even know the full story of what happened in that fight. It's ridiculous.

We know that Cap feels bad about how he treated Peter, he said so himself at his funeral. That doesn't stop him from thinking that Peter was too young for all that, but he probably kicks himself for forgetting to take into account Peter's experience and all he's been through. I think Cap believes that he can avoid that mistake with Miles, who is much more 'new' and even younger than Peter.

[LJ-90]

Am I the only one that feels like Marquez (who does an awesome job) seems to draw Miles as older than he really is? In this issue he looked like he was 15 instead of 13, Pichelli makes Miles look younger and shorter. It just weird me out a little, Marquez draw a great Miles in costume in issue 10, so I was thinking about that while I was re-reading the issue today.

I think it's just Marquez style, Ganke also looks bigger than when Pichelli drew him, but I was just wondering if someone else thought the same thing.

[yancey19]

Oh and who else felt bad for judge?

Yeah I feel pretty bad for Judge, I like him. Hopefully Miles and Ganke tell him soon.

[atlasjj]

I can see why Steve is being the way he is. He does not want another dead Spider-Man. And because Miles is 4 years younger than Peter he is more likely to get killed at a quicker rate. So I can see why Steve says what he says and is acting the way he is. He said Peter was to young and he got killed so yeah I don't think Steve was really being a jerk.

[ActionSage]

If miles gets the web shooters next issue, Who is gonna teach him how to make webs? Jessica maybe..

[Genki Sudo]

Maybe Ganke

[Don Yoyo]

Am I the only one that feels like Marquez (who does an awesome job) seems to draw Miles as older than he really is?

It's hard to notice if it's true. So far, all regular artists on Ultimate Spider-Man have managed to stay true to the youthfulness of the character, something that 'guest' artists rarely manage to do, always drawing Spider-Man with the same size and body-type than classic Spider-Man.

If miles gets the web shooters next issue, Who is gonna teach him how to make webs? Jessica maybe..

He seems to be smart enough to do it himself if he is given the formula. Jessica doesn't create her own webs, I'm not sure she would be the best to teach him about that.

[MrV]

He seems to be smart enough to do it himself if he is given the formula. Jessica doesn't create her own webs, I'm not sure she would be the best to teach him about that.

Jessica has Peter's memories, of course she would be best to teach him how to make webs!

[Number_5]

If miles gets the web shooters next issue, Who is gonna teach him how to make webs? Jessica maybe..

Why should anybody have to teach Miles to make webs? Who taught Peter to make webs, hmm?

[Chaos_Alfa]

Why should anybody have to teach Miles to make webs? Who taught Peter to make webs, hmm?

Peter had the luxury of having his father's research to build the web formula with, Miles doesn't.

And if I remember correctly it was somewhere confirmed Miles is less science smart than Peter.
It seems Ganke is smarter in that area.

[Don Yoyo]

Why should anybody have to teach Miles to make webs? Who taught Peter to make webs, hmm?

Peter created his webs from a formula left by his father.

You do have a point though, that Spider-Man impostor who killed John Stacy definitely had webs.

[Trypp]

Just got finished reading this issue and I have to say this title keeps getting better and better. This is the second month in a row where the things took an unexpected and surprising turn. I definitely wasn't expecting to see Gwen or May this issue, let alone be the one's wanting to meet up with Miles. All in all, can't wait for the next issue and for miles to finally get his webs.

[skyvolt2000]

Yeah I feel pretty bad for Judge, I like him. Hopefully Miles and Ganke tell him soon.

Or he finds out on his own. Somebody has to have footage of Miles suing his powers the first time during that fire. Miles zapping that thug (whose to say the black guy there wasn't related to Judge). Also all those people on the street and from the bus saw that Spider-Man was a black kid. Who else saw Uncle Aaron when he came to the school? Where does Ganke tell Judge when Miles isn't around for long periods of time?

Sooner or later someone has to add all that together. Be it Judge or some villain-hunting down anyone teen that looks like Miles.

[MrV]

Peter created his webs from a formula left by his father.

You do have a point though, that Spider-Man impostor who killed John Stacy definitely had webs.

Arcade from Ultimate X-Men had webs too. He explained a friend scrapped a sample of webbing off a building in New York City. This means many people who get their hands on residual webbing of Peter's were able to reverse engineer it.

[RockyBanks]

Before you guys mentioned it, I honestly hadn't noticed Miles holding back with the venom strike during his fight with Batroc. Pretty cool stuff.

I loved this issue. IMO, issues 12 and 13 are the high point of the series so far. Like Plawsky said, this feels like the old USM.

I like how Bendis worked in the appearance of May and Gwen and made it a legitimate surprise. Every reader has been waiting impatiently for this meeting since issue #1, and everyone knew it was coming eventually. Bendis used Cap as a distraction so that it was a serious shock when May and Gwen appeared. I was floored.

I do have questions about this story's continuity with Spider-Men, but there's still plenty of opportunity for the next few issues to clear everything up. Hopefully Bendis hasn't screwed over his own continuity again, as he is wont to do.

I can't blame Cap for wanting to put the kibosh on Miles's superhero-ing. He's a little gruff about it, but he's not being a dick. As established early in this issue, he believes Peter's death is the result of a lack of training (for which he blames himself), and he knows that no one has the time to train Miles. He'd rather see Miles hang up the mask than wind up dead like Peter.

I don't mind admitting that if I was face-to-face with a superpowered 13-year-old, I'd have the same reaction.