Daredevil #16 *Spoilers*

**chariset** · 08-01-2012, 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by Wellman

Well the happy days are just about over, time for the rough stuff again.

Yeah, because the issue where he was a helpless, deaf-and-blind prisoner in Latveria was all sunshine and rainbows.

**Darth Pipes** · 08-01-2012, 07:24 PM

Anothe great and creative issue. I liked seeing Matt and Hank exchange memories. Definitely didn't expect the bones of Matt's father to be in the box and damn, was that ever creepy.

**jarvisjackrabbit** · 08-01-2012, 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by chariset

Yeah, because the issue where he was a helpless, deaf-and-blind prisoner in Latveria was all sunshine and rainbows.

I love the last six words you typed here.

**chariset** · 08-01-2012, 09:04 PM

Wahaa!

**Matt Murdock's Swagger** · 08-01-2012, 09:15 PM

Good issue....liked how Pym got a small taste of what it's like to be DD.
....but why Foggy gotta be hating on my boy Matt like that though !!

**drakeon** · 08-02-2012, 04:34 AM

This was a great issue! Love the parallel story connecting Pym and Matt. Multiple personality disorder and some crazy bits comes from being doused with chemicals. (Look out Barry Allen). At least Matt hasnt hit one of his girls (cause hes blind of course). ;)

But seriously, I compeltely enjoyed this issue, and even though there was no suprise to what was in the desk, it was still entertaining to see the reaction either way. Really looking forward to see where this goes. And in two weeks: ALLRED!

**KurtW95** · 08-02-2012, 04:39 AM

Originally Posted by drakeon

This was a great issue! Love the parallel story connecting Pym and Matt.

Made me really miss Jan.

**nosocialize100** · 08-02-2012, 05:20 AM

Originally Posted by KurtW95

Made me really miss Jan.

Same here. No Jan, less cool Pym!

**Godlike13** · 08-02-2012, 06:17 AM

Awesome issue, and kind of sad. Made me miss Jan too, and feel for both Hank and Matt.

**Vic Vega** · 08-02-2012, 06:53 AM

Originally Posted by Matt Murdock's Swagger

Good issue....liked how Pym got a small taste of what it's like to be DD.
....but why Foggy gotta be hating on my boy Matt like that though !!

From Foggy's point of view Matt's been kind of a cancer.

He's been targeted by assassins, lost his law office and had to go into witness protection because of him, among other things.

So Foggy partners up with Matt yet again, waiting for the inevitable Matt freakout or ganglord retaliatory strike that will ruin Foggy yet again.

Foggy isn't giving Matt's crazy a chance to ruin him this time.

It would be funny if Matt was innocent of this.

I'm glad o see this book is improving again.

The recent cross over caused me to drop the book(I don't want to have to buy book I'm not already buying to understand a story).

Once again one of Marvel's best ongoings.

**squashmaster** · 08-02-2012, 08:03 AM

Okay, so, first half of the issue? Cool as hell.

Second half? What the hell Foggy? Really? You're just gonna up and leave him over this, without letting him explain himself? Is Foggy really that bipolar about stuff?

I'm not blaming this on Foggy, I'm blaming it on Mark Waid. Sorry but he wouldn't just up and leave him this abruptly. He's stuck with him through much weirder and more messed up than this. MUCH. But now he's going wacko.

Lame.

**Iron Maiden** · 08-02-2012, 08:15 AM

Yeah, I think Foggy overreacted too considering he knows what kind of enemies Matt has, any number of which would plant that in the office in order to play mind games with him.

Originally Posted by chariset

Wahaa!

I actually have this shirt from WeLoveFine...suitable for garden parties and all summer festivities

Originally Posted by KurtW95

Made me really miss Jan.

Me too. I don't know why Marvel is so unyielding about her death in SI.

**antsomarching** · 08-02-2012, 12:42 PM

I see their relationship similar to that of a husband and wife. Maybe this is cheesy.

The wife understands her husband has a busy job that occupies most of his time. She understands that and supports it for many years, but after a while she just gets fed up. Rather than dealing with the issue early on (wanting him to make more of an effort to be home and being the husband), she lets it build up to the point where she walks out. Foggy believes Matt is lying about the remains, so I won't add that into my above analogy. Reconciliation is needed for their friendship, but can Matt realistically continue to be a productive law partner and Daredevil at the same time?

**KurtW95** · 08-02-2012, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by Iron Maiden

Me too. I don't know why Marvel is so unyielding about her death in SI.

I thought we were finally gonna get her back in Avengers Academy, but NO, it was Carina Walters.

**StrongGuy** · 08-02-2012, 01:24 PM

Thinking about this issue again. I find it odd that Foggy would just dump it on the desk like that. Even if Foggy is totally ticked off, Jack deserves better than that, no?