AvX #9 *Spoilers*

[Goldgeller]

Even if it was corrupting them, they still should have their brains intact.

It would have been more in character for a schemer like Magik to convince her loyal and protective brother into taking out Emma and Scott so they could have the PF for themselves. Attacking Scemma would take precedence over beating each other senseless.

Colossus and Scott have always been at odds with each other ever since Scott strapped a bomb onto his little sister and Illyana is normally the one playing mind games, not the one getting played. She freaking outwitted the Elder gods and destroyed them for goodness sake. Emma never trusted Magik so a Scott and Emma vs Magik and Colossus showdown would have made a whole lot more sense.

That sound really good actually.

[phanphare]

I think all the arguing about Colossus and Magik is really arguing about just how strong the Phoenix Force really is. I think the Phoenix Force would out weigh any of their brother and sister connections. especially since it's split 4 ways in this issue. Emma realizes it, tries to stop it, and she can't control it. and I think Scott has to go to great lengths to "make the world better" so he can convince himself that he isn't being corrupted even though he clearly is

[ExodusCloak]

Emma will be put in the exact same situation as fakeJean in the DPS. This time their love and Cyclops will prevail. Emma won't die.

[nitake92]

Oh god, that was just pure Spiderman....

Re: The fact that Colossus and Magik would never turn on each other...
I don't think it's an absolute at least with Colossus.... Colossus has been known to have temper issue when things don't go his way as shown in WATXM 14 and Excalibur 92 and Spidey not going down as fast as he wants isn't helping and with Magik goading him to kill Spidey which he doesn't want. I think him seeing that taking the Phoenix power from his sister could be beneficial to her to PROTECT her.

And let's be clear, they did not show Colossus and Magik Physically FIGHTING each other due to the goading, we only saw a Phoenix flare up and them depowered later. For all we know, it might be that the Phoenix portion in them that is dominant reacting to the goading and trying to merge with the closest part of it and leaving the two.

[We R. Venom]

One of the worst issues of a comic I've read all year. I'm not a fan of Colossus or Magik but i cringed big time at how badly they were handled.

Yeah they did get handled didn't they. ^^
Oh Emma!! tsk tsk- "I can't control it!!!"

[NightMage]

No, it wasn't.

Calm down.

I'm guessing s/he's angry because the X-Men are being taken down a notch, and s/he wanted the X-Men to win this.

As I've said before: There will be a winner and a loser, but neither will feel that; "AvX: Consequences" will be testament to that.

[RoguefanAM]

I think all the arguing about Colossus and Magik is really arguing about just how strong the Phoenix Force really is. I think the Phoenix Force would out weigh any of their brother and sister connections. especially since it's split 4 ways in this issue. Emma realizes it, tries to stop it, and she can't control it. and I think Scott has to go to great lengths to "make the world better" so he can convince himself that he isn't being corrupted even though he clearly is

What would the PF gain from intentionally sabotaging itself? Magik and Colossus weren't resisting it like Emma was.

[NightMage]

Various reasons. The premise hasn't been relevant in issues, the blatant one sided nature/favoritism of the writers to the Avengers over the X-Men is getting more ridiculous with each passing issue.

Did you really think that Marvel's biggest cash cow of a movie was going to play second fiddle in this story? If so, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you...cheap.

[Aaric Rivad]

So... most of the complaints seem to be that the bad guys are being outsmarted by the good guys? That's comics, folks.

I'm kind of getting tired of T'Challa's attitude, though. I know the Iron Man haters love it every time he sucker-punches Tony, or denigrates his intelligence in some way. Really, though, other than being an arrogant prick, what's he really accomplished? Oh... I guess he did give the X-Fans the divorce they've been demanding, so there's that.

[RoguefanAM]

I'm guessing s/he's angry because the X-Men are being taken down a notch, and s/he wanted the X-Men to win this.

As I've said before: There will be a winner and a loser, but neither will feel that; "AvX: Consequences" will be testament to that.

I can deal with the X-men 'losing', but not when it's badly written. At least write believable excuses.

[Aaric Rivad]

Did you really think that Marvel's biggest cash cow of a movie was going to play second fiddle in this story? If so, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you...cheap.

As if the X-Men didn't get about 30 years of traction out of being Marvel's "cash cow?" Please. The entire Marvel Universe rolled over for those clowns so often, they should have been handing out treats.

[NightMage]

LOL! I'm going with this. The PF reduces their hosts IQ to feeble.

I've been saying this from the beginning. That Magik and Namor should be the last two corrupted, as they've had the most experience dealing with relative absolute power.

Unless you're referring to things that I haven't heard about then the answer is no, this is different.

Namor is ruler of a Kingdom, Magik is Sorceress Supreme of her dimension. What they're dealing with is something even beyond their understanding or comprehension; A power that goes beyond being a ruler or an all-powerful conjurer, something that approaches godhood.

If you don't have the maturity or wisdom to deal with such a power, you and the universe are pretty much screwed.

[celticguy]

What would the PF gain from intentionally sabotaging itself? Magik and Colossus weren't resisting it like Emma was.

closer to one host.

So are we going to get a scene where Scott kills Emma and she asks him to do it.

[L-Dizzy]

I see that this issue has caused some mixed reaction... And I enjoyed parts of it like where Hope was concerned about ol' Spidey after he didn't come with the other Avengers. Seriously I would like to see a friendship form between these two & I know that it seems Gary-Stuish, but that what I see in the future hopefully.
And as a Spider-Man fan, I loved that he got some action as from what I can tell he doesn't get much to do in these company wide events.
However, I still don't like how Colossus & Magik are being portrayed.
It just bothers me so.
One more thing why is Thor getting his ass kicked more than Worf from Star Trek?!
Nevertheless a okay issue with some great moments here & there with some issues thrown into it as well.

[RoguefanAM]

All five have been together in once place and the PF was not acting up (Uncanny).

Unless you're referring to things that I haven't heard about then the answer is no, this is different.

Namor is ruler of a Kingdom, Magik is Sorceress Supreme of her dimension. What they're dealing with is something even beyond their understanding or comprehension; A power that goes beyond being a ruler or an all-powerful conjurer, something that approaches godhood.

If you don't have the maturity or wisdom to deal with such a power, you and the universe are pretty much screwed.

Rachel controlled a portion of the PF for years without ever doing this bad or losing her smarts. And again, since when does being in control of the PF reduce your IQ? Or make it want to intentionally sabotage itself?