AvX #9 *Spoilers*

[chariset]

Strange didn't do much except look impotent.

Lovely.

Well, thanks for saving me $3.99. I'll spend it on Defenders instead.

[bladeofdarkness]

Wait, Spider-Man beats Colossus and Magik off panel?

no.
he talked them into fighting among themselves.
i didn't know the PF turns you into a C-list villain.

meanwhile, I'm kinda sad about Emma.
on the one hand, it looks like she crossed the line which will turn her into the last boss.
on the other hand, the scene right before makes it clear she desperately wants to AVOID doing what she ended up doing, and even reaches out to Scott for help (which he, being the people person that he is, completely failed to see).

its sad in a way that's hard to describe, as she seems to be the only P5 member who actually recognizes the PF's influence on her, but is incapable of resisting it.
and now that she has twice as much power as before...

[Goldgeller]

no.
he talked them into fighting among themselves.
i didn't know the PF turns you into a C-list villain.

meanwhile, I'm kinda sad about Emma.
on the one hand, it looks like she crossed the line which will turn her into the last boss.
on the other hand, the scene right before makes it clear she desperately wants to AVOID doing what she ended up doing, and even reaches out to Scott for help (which he, being the people person that he is, completely failed to see).

its sad in a way that's hard to describe, as she seems to be the only P5 member who actually recognizes the PF's influence on her, but is incapable of resisting it.
and now that she has twice as much power as before...

Yes. The door is wide open with this though. Emma can go even crazier, or she can stop what she is doing. I don't know how much Emma is really there... The mitigating circumstances I put earlier, I mean, blame it on Phoenix I guess. Also, I'm sure she wouldn't be the only super-hero to have done something like that in the Marvel Universe. I'm not too big on the history, but is this something she could recover from, based on other heroes actions?

In any case, it could go either way. I think they will give us a phoenix v phoenix fight, but how far?

Emma

[XPac]

no.
he talked them into fighting among themselves.
i didn't know the PF turns you into a C-list villain.

meanwhile, I'm kinda sad about Emma.
on the one hand, it looks like she crossed the line which will turn her into the last boss.
on the other hand, the scene right before makes it clear she desperately wants to AVOID doing what she ended up doing, and even reaches out to Scott for help (which he, being the people person that he is, completely failed to see).

its sad in a way that's hard to describe, as she seems to be the only P5 member who actually recognizes the PF's influence on her, but is incapable of resisting it.
and now that she has twice as much power as before...

I count what Spidey did as "beating" them. He needed to find a way to stop them (and save his own behind) and he did.

As far as Emma... yeah, I do think there's something symathetic and sad about what's happening there. She's at least trying (and failing) to stop it. In a weird way I'm more bothered by Scott ignoring her obvious pleas for help than I am of Emma who's the one actually doing the killing.

[AcesX1X]

poor issue for colossus and illyana. they may as well have been mindless lackeys the way spider-man convinced them to take each other out.

[bladeofdarkness]

As far as Emma... yeah, I do think there's something symathetic and sad about what's happening there. She's at least trying (and failing) to stop it. In a weird way I'm more bothered by Scott ignoring her obvious pleas for help than I am of Emma who's the one actually doing the killing.

I can't remember who it was that raised the theory that Scott's single mindedness about the whole "transform the world" is, in fact, his own way of trying to struggle with the PF's corrupting influence.
as if he doesn't allow himself to get distracted by anything to prevent himself from slipping.

that said, i also was pretty sad about him ignoring her cries for help in favor of chasing off after Hope (who's significance at this stage is rather odd).

[chariset]

poor issue for colossus and illyana. they may as well have been mindless lackeys the way spider-man convinced them to take each other out.

That I can forgive. It was more or less inevitable that the Phoenix [Numeral] would turn on each other once they realized that one of them could have ALL the Phoenix and not have to share. But I expected the siblings to ally against Emma and Scott

[XPac]

I can't remember who it was that raised the theory that Scott's single mindedness about the whole "transform the world" is, in fact, his own way of trying to struggle with the PF's corrupting influence.
as if he doesn't allow himself to get distracted by anything to prevent himself from slipping.

that said, i also was pretty sad about him ignoring her cries for help in favor of chasing off after Hope (who's significance at this stage is rather odd).

Hope is very signficant for one of two reasons.

She's either the way to restart the mutant gene (if Scott still cares about that) or she's the potential weapon the Avengers will use against what's left of the P5.

Plus, I think Scott is just ticked off not only over the fact that the Avengers tried taking her from him, but over the fact that she chose to leave. He's taking it a bit personally I think.

[godzilla2099]

I can't remember who it was that raised the theory that Scott's single mindedness about the whole "transform the world" is, in fact, his own way of trying to struggle with the PF's corrupting influence.
as if he doesn't allow himself to get distracted by anything to prevent himself from slipping.

that said, i also was pretty sad about him ignoring her cries for help in favor of chasing off after Hope (who's significance at this stage is rather odd).

I didn't read this book yet and Cyclops is my second favorite Marvel Character, but I frowned reading about that part.

That really seemed like a selfish and dickish move. Mission Objectives are one thing. But leaving your lady like that? Not cool

[XPac]

I didn't read this book yet and Cyclops is my second favorite Marvel Character, but I frowned reading about that part.

That really seemed like a selfish and dickish move. Mission Objectives are one thing. But leaving your lady like that? Not cool

Can't say that's entirely out of character for Scott.

Just ask Maddie and baby Nathan back in X-Factor 1.

[Optic Rage]

One of the worst issues of a comic I've read all year. I'm not a fan of Colossus or Magik but i cringed big time at how badly they were handled.

[chariset]

One of the worst issues of a comic I've read all year. I'm not a fan of Colossus or Magik but i cringed big time at how badly they were handled.

But isn't Spider-Man just so DREEEEEEEAMY??

[USERNAME TAKEN]

I count what Spidey did as "beating" them. He needed to find a way to stop them (and save his own behind) and he did.

As far as Emma... yeah, I do think there's something symathetic and sad about what's happening there. She's at least trying (and failing) to stop it. In a weird way I'm more bothered by Scott ignoring her obvious pleas for help than I am of Emma who's the one actually doing the killing.

Scott has always been like that.

His mask looks like a condom for a reason.

[AcesX1X]

That I can forgive. It was more or less inevitable that the Phoenix [Numeral] would turn on each other once they realized that one of them could have ALL the Phoenix and not have to share. But I expected the siblings to ally against Emma and Scott

i think it was handled in a very sloppy manner even if we do know where the end point is going. i love spider-man, but this was dumb. illyana and colossus are not complete idiots, and this was one of the laziest things i have seen in this whole event.

"did i do good, uncle ben?" GTFO

[stewart48]

I wouldn't say Emma is totally evil now. We know that she, unlike scott, is aware that something is corrupting her, followed by a scene later where she gives in, but at the same time its an incident involving a single hit and run driver and not emma shutting down every avenger's brain like she says she can do, and struggling not to do.