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    MXAAGVNIEETRO were right The Black Guardian's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldgeller View Post
    There are already a ton of people who won't ever forgive Emma, but AvX makes it worse for Emma fans (if Emma dies) because not only is Emma taken away, Emma's haters also get the last laugh. That's the other thing that gets me going with this.
    IMO, the people who want Emma to be heroic are the Emma haters. True Emma just wants to abuse children, eat horses, and buy the world. Heroic Emma is just a bitchy Jean.

    What if Our Lord Magneto dies?
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    I think Emma biggest problem is, after Morrison, only Whedon has done something with her, she has just stay a pale reflection of a character ever since (as many high-profile X-men) I'm not an Emma hater, nor am I a Emma lover, it just seems she has reached her potential right now and unless they have a superb idea to twist her even more she won't be that missed... honestly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chariset View Post
    I hope someone picks up Mockingbird. Bendis went to all the trouble to make her a super-soldier, after all.
    I like the idea someone floated about her on a BofP inspired team. Mockingbird, Widow, Psylocke as the core. maybe Sharon or Maria as the handler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by celticguy View Post
    I like the idea someone floated about her on a BofP inspired team. Mockingbird, Widow, Psylocke as the core. maybe Sharon or Maria as the handler.
    I think she'd have a place on the Fearless/Valkyries/Liberators team, if that ever gets off the ground.

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    Default My objection to Emma Frost: She's a pro-wrestling character

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Ben View Post
    I think Emma biggest problem is, after Morrison, only Whedon has done something with her, she has just stay a pale reflection of a character ever since (as many high-profile X-men) I'm not an Emma hater, nor am I a Emma lover, it just seems she has reached her potential right now and unless they have a superb idea to twist her even more she won't be that missed... honestly.
    My objection to Emma Frost is she is basically a pro-wrestling character in a comic. She cannot be written without destroying other characters. Without her powers she is nothing, versus a character like Storm who becomes great without powers just by adopting a mohawk haircut. Note that even in Whedon's run they had to shelve Kitty Pryde's character at the end, because Emma Frost must be written to win everything; whereas in Ultimates Kitty Pryde is being written as one of the three foundations of the current Ultimate Universe.

    I contend the new superb idea is to have Emma Frost eventually become the new Professor X telepathically leading the X-Men from afar. To this end Marvel appears to me to be killing Charles Xavier, bringing back teen Jean so that Emma Frost can own her and not prime Jean, temporarily promoting Legion as a joke since he must eventually go Sentry/Void, and thus "redeeming" Emma Frost in a few months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Guardian View Post
    IMO, the people who want Emma to be heroic are the Emma haters. True Emma just wants to abuse children, eat horses, and buy the world. Heroic Emma is just a bitchy Jean.
    I don't particularly care for characters like Emma and Magneto being saints. I can buy that they are with the X-Men to help their own people but I don't see them being content to just sit there and take Scott's orders. They should be manipulating the X-Men, pulling the strings, maybe even killing a bigot/horse or two. I mean c'mon, at least give me some Scemma BDSM!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Guardian View Post
    IMO, the people who want Emma to be heroic are the Emma haters. True Emma just wants to abuse children, eat horses, and buy the world. Heroic Emma is just a bitchy Jean.

    What if Our Lord Magneto dies?

    Well, what Emma attract me are the facts that she's a nontraditional heroine, that she's morally ambiguous, that she's powerful and self-made lady, that she walks the fine line between hero and villain etc. And all of those can be represented perfectly when she's with X-Men. Buying the world is the thing that every cliched, boring villain wanna do, I've never found it that interesting.

    And I don't think anyone can tell fans how to appreciate characters correctly.

    Quote Originally Posted by jphamlore View Post
    My objection to Emma Frost is she is basically a pro-wrestling character in a comic. She cannot be written without destroying other characters. Without her powers she is nothing, versus a character like Storm who becomes great without powers just by adopting a mohawk haircut. Note that even in Whedon's run they had to shelve Kitty Pryde's character at the end, because Emma Frost must be written to win everything; whereas in Ultimates Kitty Pryde is being written as one of the three foundations of the current Ultimate Universe
    Hmm... how so? I do believe that Emma can make other characters even more interesting.
    Could you elaborate?
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