Thread Drift: Was The Amazing Spider-Man (financially) successful?

[ShaggyB]

Most seem to forget that this will be the most successful superhero reboot commercially. I'd say it was successful just on the fact the third movie left a bad taste in most people's mouths and people still went to see this movie. I think this movie confirmed for Sony that they only need to make a decent Spider-man movie and it will rake in the cash supposedly the movie will finish with 800 million sounds like a financial hit to me.

I agree with the bad taste and it being overcome. Movie wasnt perfect but it was miles ahead of spider-man 3

[Wayne 26]

Eh who cares for much it made? All I cared for was if the film was going to be good, which it was by the way. Although I would care if not making enough money for a sequal, but we're getting a trilogy instead!

[David Walton]

Spider-Man 3 didn't leave as bad a taste in audience's mouths as most here assume. Every kid I've talked to under 10 lists it as their favorite of the trilogy. And most mainstream comic outsiders I've talked to were initially disappointed to hear of a reboot, hoping for another outing with Raimi and Maguire.

As for most people going to see it, a mediocre sequel to a great movie is actually in a better position than a franchise starter. People saw SM3 on the strength of the second film.

With that in mind, I think Sony is more than satisfied with ASM's performance. It's meant to kickstart a franchise, not outsell Avengers and Dark Knight Rises. It clearly had an audience, it wasn't a flop, and it will pick up a bigger one on DVD by the time ASM2 is out.

Something else to keep in mind: if memory serves, all three Spider-Man movies had the coveted first May weekend opening.

So yeah, I think it was a success, though the real test will be ASM2.

[CyberHubbs]

Yeah. With DVD and Blu-Ray sales, I'm sure it'll do just fine. And then the Collector's Edition and Director's Cut Edition and the Kinect Edition where you get to kill Uncle Ben yourself through the screen...

[Wayne 26]

[QUOTE=David Walton;15613146]Spider-Man 3 didn't leave as bad a taste in audience's mouths as most here assume. Every kid I've talked to under 10 lists it as their favorite of the trilogy. And most mainstream comic outsiders I've talked to were initially disappointed to hear of a reboot, hoping for another outing with Raimi and Maguire.

Same thoughts here as well; a have a friend who also thinks SM3 as the best of all three. His reasons? More villans and more action.

[ViewtifulJC]

Successful, as a film? It's a slick, thoroughly mediocre superhero reboot.

But money-wise, it's fine. Not up there with the big boys for Box Office, but it's not exactly Green Lantern or anything. It's fine.

[Wayne 26]

Yeah. With DVD and Blu-Ray sales, I'm sure it'll do just fine. And then the Collector's Edition and Director's Cut Edition and the Kinect Edition where you get to kill Uncle Ben yourself through the screen...

And a directors cut please ASAP!

[Scott Taylor]

Spider-Man 3 didn't leave as bad a taste in audience's mouths as most here assume. Every kid I've talked to under 10 lists it as their favorite of the trilogy. And most mainstream comic outsiders I've talked to were initially disappointed to hear of a reboot, hoping for another outing with Raimi and Maguire.

As for most people going to see it, a mediocre sequel to a great movie is actually in a better position than a franchise starter. People saw SM3 on the strength of the second film.

Totally. My son loved Spider-Man 3, still does. We watched it together the other day yet again when it came up on TV. The funny thing is that there are parts both of us don't like as well, especially near the end. But overall, great flick. Even the part with Peter Parker dancing down the street. Its not like Raimi took that part seriously, because literally everyone he encountered along the way was treating him as if he were diseased. It was a nerd trying to be cool and it was....epic. I like the comedy in the Raimi trilogy.

I do think, therefore, that SM3 wasn't the franchise-ending flick some would make it out to be. The might be a big reason why so many people thought ASM was a reboot done too soon.

[David Walton]

Totally. My son loved Spider-Man 3, still does. We watched it together the other day yet again when it came up on TV. The funny thing is that there are parts both of us don't like as well, especially near the end. But overall, great flick. Even the part with Peter Parker dancing down the street. Its not like Raimi took that part seriously, because literally everyone he encountered along the way was treating him as if he were diseased. It was a nerd trying to be cool and it was....epic. I like the comedy in the Raimi trilogy.

I do think, therefore, that SM3 wasn't the franchise-ending flick some would make it out to be. The might be a big reason why so many people thought ASM was a reboot done too soon.

I pretty much agree with everything you've said here. I don't think SM3 was a franchise killer.

The dance scene was funny in a 'Peter is being an ass and doesn't realize it' kind of way. And it's like a follow-up to the scene in SM2 where Peter gains confidence after quitting Spider-Man and the girls really do dig him.

Also of note, I remember the reviews being favorable, noting that it wasn't as strong as 2 but it was still going strong.

[Kevinroc]

Yeah, I thought the dance scene in Spider-Man 3 was ludicrously amusing. Always did. Never understood why people went crazy over it. It always seemed to be that whenever good guys turn bad, they are instantly cool. But that isn't who Peter Parker is. He turns "bad" and he's still not cool.

[Ballard Blues]

Yeah, I thought the dance scene in Spider-Man 3 was ludicrously amusing. Always did. Never understood why people went crazy over it.

More or less because I was taking the film seriously up until the montage and the dance scene --- both of which I knew were supposed to be funny, but never amused me in the least since it just took me out of the srs business mood.

[TheboyinShadows]

Other problem I don't think was mentioned before is the carnival/parade for Spiderman.( I haven't watched the raimis films for quite a while).
We see how Peter is overly joiced about the parade in his honor and how cool it is.

Then later I watch spectacular spidey episode 3 ending scene where Peter considers quitting:
he says:Billy's cured and gets his father back,
so what if noone threw a parade Spidey stays cause Spidey needed.
I realised this was what the films were missing in the department of cool monologues.

[Russell]

Best superhero movie ever made, really? It takes so little to please some people.

I wouldn't say I was easy to please, it's just that good.
Only The Dark Knight would challenge it as far as I'm concerned (Tom Cruises' ex-wife brought down Begins for me, and Rises dragged on in parts).

The Avengers was fun, but it was a series of explosions and fights with a simplistic storyline at best and no coherent plot if we're not pulling punches.

ASM is deep, powerful, gritty and relateable, yet still fantastical and witty. I have not seen any superhero movie as good as it was.

[Mister Mets]

The problem with movie villains is "we've already seen this guy before" is a legitimate complaint. I think that's a big reason Amazing opened with the Lizard, a villain Raimi seemingly wanted to use but didn't or couldn't.

Nolan's Batman opened with the Scarecrow and Ra's. Villains not used in the original films. And Nolan apparently resisted calls to use Riddler in Rises.

As far as Mary Jane and her usage. It really depends on a variety of factors. Is the next set of movies going to open with Betty Brant as a love interest? We're essentially seeing the "Gwen or Mary Jane" question that tends to pop up in comic conversations playing out on the big screen. Unless the movies really intend to get away from Gwen and Mary Jane, I don't see it as a situation that is sustainable. This entire thread is essentially a discussion if the movies will kill Gwen and if Mary Jane will be introduced to help Peter learn to love again.

It doesn't seem like Raimi had any interest using the Lizard.

His plans for Spider-Man 4 included the Vulture, and Felicia Hardy (although this version of Felicia Hardy would be the Vulture's daughter.)

I pretty much agree with everything you've said here. I don't think SM3 was a franchise killer.

The dance scene was funny in a 'Peter is being an ass and doesn't realize it' kind of way. And it's like a follow-up to the scene in SM2 where Peter gains confidence after quitting Spider-Man and the girls really do dig him.

Also of note, I remember the reviews being favorable, noting that it wasn't as strong as 2 but it was still going strong.

I don't think Spider-Man 3 was a franchise killer because it was a bad film. The series could recover from those.

But it was difficult to keep going forward from there.

I would have preferred a Spider-Man 4 and maybe a Spider-Man 5 to wrap up the saga, but at some point, a relaunch was inevitable.

[Darman456]

This superhero movies' standings with me:
1. The Avengers (Geekasm during the whole thing)
2. The Amazing Spider-Man (Deep in character and really brought my favorite comic book character to life on the big screen)
3. Batman: The Dark Knight (Deep in character and made me a Batman fan)
4. Iron Man (Iron Man was just a funny, joy ride detailing the character better than ever before)
5. Batman: The Dark Knight Rises (It dragged a little in some parts and the exposition seemed to take most of the movie but it was still a good film overall)

Those are my top five and I could go on and on and on continually. But, finicially and personally I think the movie is a success. Finanically, even if it doesn't earn as much as the Raimi films (I think Sony had to have expected that) it still is a money-maker. Hell, I liked Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows well enough and it didn't make as much as those other big budget flicks. It's a fun film and it is getting a sequel. Warner Brothers wasn't disappointed with the film and I don't think Sony is disappointed with The Amazing Spider-Man in the least. After all it has earned 600.5 million dollars so far and it isn't out of theatres yet. Though, I expect the film has actually hit a high point. But with the Dark Knight Rises and the Avengers, I doubt Sony could've asked for better.