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    If they want to do little easter eggs the key is not to have them be obtrusive or too noticable. Perfect example is Odin's Ravens when Thor and Loki are arguing on the mountain. People who don't read the comics wouldn't even notice them, but people who know Thor's mythology are like "oh cool! Odin's ravens!"

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    Well, they could go with something subtle...like someone reading a Daily Planet newspaper (even that name is enough of a reference)...or seeing names like Central City or East Coast City at a train station...something in the background which most people really wouldn't pay much attention to, but which fans would recognize instantly!

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    Exactly. It's a win win situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bat39 View Post
    Honestly, this whole 'shared universe' thing is something I'm not really sure about (and neither is Warner Bros apparently). We'll have to see if MOS establishes a precedent in that regard. In any case, while I think the next Batman movie should be set in a universe where the JL COULD exist, there's no need to explicitly advertise the presence of other superheroes in the movie. Much like about 80 % of Batman comics which DON'T feature other superheroes, the movie too should keep Batman largely isolated (though the same version could figure in a JL movie).

    A cameo by someone like Black Canary or Green Arrow though...MIGHT work!
    The shared universe thing works for Marvel because that has always been their strong suit and because the fact that they didn't have access to Spider-Man and the X-Men (mainly Wolverine) created a unique situation where Marvel had to up-sell their B-Listers and create a way to engage the audience as much as possible.

    WB/DC already has a multi-billion-dollar film franchise that is rife with opportunities to be spun-off and expanded upon while still maintaining a unique tone in the ever-expanding superhero movie genre. To flush all that in a ham-fisted short-sighted attempt to ape Marvel and frantically chase their Avengers success just makes WB look like a Johnny (DC) Come Lately, especially when the DCU is a much weaker shared universe than Marvel's 616.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauly T View Post
    The shared universe thing works for Marvel because that has always been their strong suit and because the fact that they didn't have access to Spider-Man and the X-Men (mainly Wolverine) created a unique situation where Marvel had to up-sell their B-Listers and create a way to engage the audience as much as possible.

    WB/DC already has a multi-billion-dollar film franchise that is rife with opportunities to be spun-off and expanded upon while still maintaining a unique tone in the ever-expanding superhero movie genre. To flush all that in a ham-fisted short-sighted attempt to ape Marvel and frantically chase their Avengers success just makes WB look like a Johnny (DC) Come Lately, especially when the DCU is a much weaker shared universe than Marvel's 616.
    Marvel has also always been better with the shared universe thing, because most of their major characters were created by the same person (Stan Lee) and the Marvel Universe was conceived from day one as a shared universe. This is far from the case with DC.

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    1) An actual Batman-esque setting. Nolan's lacked that.
    2) NO Bat Tank.
    3) Riddler or some other colorful characters.
    4) No ultra-realism in a Batman ever again. That's not Batman.
    5) A better Bat Suit. The suit with Bat-nipples looked better than any of the suits in Nolan's films. They were hideous looking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superman_The_Man_Of_Steel View Post
    4) No ultra-realism in a Batman ever again. That's not Batman.


    To quote Bat-Mite "Batman's rich history allows him to be interpreted in a multitude of ways" and this is "certainly no less valid and true to the character's roots" than anything else. No matter how many people say "I'm sorry, but that's not my Batman!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Superman_The_Man_Of_Steel View Post
    5) A better Bat Suit. The suit with Bat-nipples looked better than any of the suits in Nolan's films. They were hideous looking.
    Now you're being ridiculous and you know it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superman_The_Man_Of_Steel View Post
    5) A better Bat Suit. The suit with Bat-nipples looked better than any of the suits in Nolan's films. They were hideous looking.
    No Bat-nipples in a Batman ever again. That's not Batman.

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    Nolan's Bruce Wayne pretty much fell backwards into being Batman after spending a number of years drifting abroad. Burton's Bruce Wayne seemed like someone who'd trained for years and years before going public.

    In a reboot, I'd like a Batman who is

    1) obviously very highly-skilled
    2) very resourceful and capable of getting out of trouble with his brain and not just his arsenal and fighting skills

    I also want

    3) A Robin done right. They need a new element besides the obvious Gordon-Alfred-Batman team.

    In terms of movie style, I'd like

    4) a, balls-to-the-wall all-action take.

    In terms of enemies,

    5) someone who doesn't overshadow Batman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LoneNecromancer View Post

    To quote Bat-Mite "Batman's rich history allows him to be interpreted in a multitude of ways" and this is "certainly no less valid and true to the character's roots" than anything else. No matter how many people say "I'm sorry, but that's not my Batman!"
    Nope. Nolan's Batman films were the least Batman-like of them all. Ultra-realism in Batman, ftl.
    Now you're being ridiculous and you know it.
    Am I? The former is no question the better looking bat suit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Superman_The_Man_Of_Steel View Post
    Nope. Nolan's Batman films were the least Batman-like of them all.
    What a brilliant argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superman_The_Man_Of_Steel View Post
    Nope. Nolan's Batman films were the least Batman-like of them all. Ultra-realism in Batman, ftl.
    Not at all like all the various realistic stories or scenarios Batman has been placed into- argh, I'm not even gonna bother. You've made your mind up and nothing I say will change your mind. :/

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    Am I? The former is no question the better looking bat suit.
    Firstly, Bat-nipples. Then, Bat-bulge. Third, Bat-curtains-made-into-a-cape. Lastly, Bat-rubber.

    Yeah, nah, I'd rather have the latter outfit. It actually looks like something Batman would wear, not a male stripper masquerading as Batman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoneNecromancer View Post
    Not at all like all the various realistic stories or scenarios Batman has been placed into- argh, I'm not even gonna bother. You've made your mind up and nothing I say will change your mind. :/


    Firstly, Bat-nipples. Then, Bat-bulge. Third, Bat-curtains-made-into-a-cape. Lastly, Bat-rubber.

    Yeah, nah, I'd rather have the latter outfit. It actually looks like something Batman would wear, not a male stripper masquerading as Batman.
    I don't know about that.

    The Batman forever suit is pretty cool looking. It fits a different style of film and the idea of putting nipples on a suit is not that crazy when Batman is trying to dress like a monster.

    I'd say TDK/TDKR suit > Batman forever ~ Batman Begins.
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    No Bat-nipples please, as much as some people may like it, universally it's considered a huge joke.

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    For me, I'd like:

    1. No origin.
    2. Drop him into a Gotham that he's already been operating in and villains are established.
    3. Tone should be slightly surreal (a world that is incredulous that superheroes and villains exist, but it's part of their reality) and serious. (I like how Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon delivered a serious story with incredible feats.)
    4. Hardcore detective story at its core. Complete mystery in each film, but builds to an overarching mystery/confrontation at the end of the trilogy. (Similar to Harry Potter.)
    5. Expanded Batman family and villains involvement. Really show the breadth and richness of the Bat mythos, even if it can only be allusions to or supporting characters. (Treat it like Nolan's Catwoman-share inferences to a character's past via how they deal with a situation or something they say, but not heavy-handed or necessarily direct.)
    6. Action needs to be intense martial arts in costumes that allow it. Gimmicks for those who aren't the greatest fighter.
    7. Villains can't be cute, unless juxtaposed with a dark side to it. Villains should be credible, psychotic, sociopathic and frightening.
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