WHO Gave Psylocke Permission to Attempt Seppuku , hmmm!?

[mikekerrIII]

Just like any warrior class, some of them were honorable and noble and others were not. Hell this is true of just about every government or power structure in history.

In this case the Warrior class was working for a system that was as incredibly vile as that of Sparta. honorable and noble is very hard to maintain there

[mikekerrIII]

Just like any warrior class, some of them were honorable and noble and others were not. Hell this is true of just about every government or power structure in history.

In this case the Warrior class was working for a system that was as incredibly vile as that of Sparta. honorable and noble is very hard to maintain there

[Flameworthy]

Fans of her original body don't ever believe she will return to her white body. She is still one of the only British X-men, her race doesn't change that.

I think it is when Marvel is clearly trying to market her as Asian and not British. Like including her in the upcoming 'Asians of Marvel' one-shots and miniseries.

[mikekerrIII]

I think it is when Marvel is clearly trying to market her as Asian and not British. Like including her in the upcoming 'Asians of Marvel' one-shots and miniseries.

The "Asians of Marvel" bit was a prank by someone on this board. I don't think Marvel is stupid enough to compound their "Yellow face" BS that far

[Flameworthy]

The "Asians of Marvel" bit was a prank by someone on this board. I don't think Marvel is stupid enough to compound their "Yellow face" BS that far

They've had her prancing around in an Asian body and thong for over two decades. I wouldn't put it past them.

[OJSlaughter]

They've had her prancing around in an Asian body and thong for over two decades. I wouldn't put it past them.

East-Asian British are basically completely unrepresented even in the UK. Marvel could totally use it to their 'were not racist' advantage: they could if she wasn't originally white, that omits them from the possibility.

[remydat]

In this case the Warrior class was working for a system that was as incredibly vile as that of Sparta. honorable and noble is very hard to maintain there

So what is your view of the Founding Fathers? They were working for a system that was incredibly vile to people of African descent? Does that mean some of them were not noble? Any system pre-abolition of slavery and segregationist policies was incredibly vile in my book. It doesn't mean that some people in the context of the world they lived in were not honorable and noble.

[mikekerrIII]

East-Asian British are basically completely unrepresented even in the UK. Marvel could totally use it to their 'were not racist' advantage: they could if she wasn't originally white, that omits them from the possibility.

She is still white. "Yellow-face" doesn't count any more than "black-face" does

[mikekerrIII]

So what is your view of the Founding Fathers? They were working for a system that was incredibly vile to people of African descent? Does that mean some of them were not noble? Any system pre-abolition of slavery and segregationist policies was incredibly vile in my book. It doesn't mean that some people in the context of the world they lived in were not honorable and noble.

Most of our Founding fathers were amoral scum-bag it took nearly a century hundreds of thousands of deaths to fix their evil. Jefferson even knew what he was doing was evil but justified it out of pragmatism

[remydat]

Most of our Founding fathers were amoral scum-bag it took nearly a century hundreds of thousands of deaths to fix their evil. Jefferson even knew what he was doing was evil but justified it out of pragmatism

There is an argument that you judge people based on the era they lived in and an argument that you don't. I can see the merits of both so as long as you apply it consistently which you are doing here then I won't dispute it.