Things you were taught that were incorrect?

[The Black Guardian]

I had the exact opposite experience. I was always taught that Slavery wasn't the primary cause of the Civil War, and discovered later that yeah it pretty much was.

Yup, this is a big thing down South as some type of justification. "Oh no! It was over 'states' rights.' " They just leave off the "rights to own slaves."

[mikekerrIII]

ht in US history is half truths. Heck, that is still true in the manner the media portrays things.

I was about slavery a reading of the various states ordinances of secession show that that was the prime reason they committed treason.

[Chris S.]

Slavery is the primary reason given in most of the Confederate Declarations of Secession. To say slavery wasn't the primary reason for leaving is incorrect.

I had the exact opposite experience. I was always taught that Slavery wasn't the primary cause of the Civil War, and discovered later that yeah it pretty much was.

I've read a lot of literature since high school that suggests it was more about the way of life in the South. The South was driven by agriculture and thus needed cheap, or rather free, labor. Thus if slaves became free people they would have had to pay them thus destroying the economy.

The North had moved into the industrial age and stuck their noses up to the South and their way of life being agricultural. They thought they were better then the South, as the North forced small children to work in their factories.

Now of course a lot of this is angry rants by Southern Agrarians I stumbled upon during graduate school.

Edit: And I said it was a half truth. We focus on slavery as the cause of the Civil War and that was only part of it. That was more my point. It is just like how we are taught that Benjamin Franklin was a noble man, all the while we have documentation that he had lovers in Europe that he was seeing while he was arguing for American freedom.

[Zero Hunter]

That is not true, we weren't able to "lose" Detroit to you.

Maybe someday we can get a good border skirmish with Canada going and quickly surrender Detroit to them if they want it or not. Just quickly redraw the maps and slide it over.

[Vibranium]

Maybe someday we can get a good border skirmish with Canada going and quickly surrender Detroit to them if they want it or not. Just quickly redraw the maps and slide it over.

"it's yours now, Canada...that's what the map says"

[Paradox]

Chris S. has odd angles:

I've read a lot of literature since high school that suggests it was more about the way of life in the South. The South was driven by agriculture and thus needed cheap, or rather free, labor. Thus if slaves became free people they would have had to pay them thus destroying the economy.

The North had moved into the industrial age and stuck their noses up to the South and their way of life being agricultural. They thought they were better then the South, as the North forced small children to work in their factories.

Now of course a lot of this is angry rants by Southern Agrarians I stumbled upon during graduate school.

If it's about "free labor to support the economy" it's still about slaves.

Edit: And I said it was a half truth. We focus on slavery as the cause of the Civil War and that was only part of it. That was more my point. It is just like how we are taught that Benjamin Franklin was a noble man, all the while we have documentation that he had lovers in Europe that he was seeing while he was arguing for American freedom.

Now you've just confused me. I don't think Ben is portrayed as particularly "noble". In fact, what he was good at was the behind-the-scenes "salon" politics that were the then-current fashion in Europe, particularly France. Ben was a manipulator and oft-times liar when he thought he needed to be. He was more a "classic politician" and that's not really all that noble. In any case, whether or not he could keep it in his pants in an era where mistresses were commonplace doesn't really speak to his "nobility" one way or the other.

[o1pickleboy]

Maybe someday we can get a good border skirmish with Canada going and quickly surrender Detroit to them if they want it or not. Just quickly redraw the maps and slide it over.

In that scenario, I demand a good chunk of Indiana in return.

[Ship]

Maybe someday we can get a good border skirmish with Canada going and quickly surrender Detroit to them if they want it or not. Just quickly redraw the maps and slide it over.

You had your chance. At the beginning of the War of 1812 Detroit was captured by General Brock and Tecumseh but we let you have it back, because well, it's Detroit.

[o1pickleboy]

You had your chance. At the beginning of the War of 1812 Detroit was captured by General Brock and Tecumseh but we let you have it back, because well, it's Detroit.

Well we couldn't turn it down, after seeing that you guys had Newfoundland, we knew you had enough problems.

[The Once And Forever]

In that scenario, I demand a good chunk of Indiana in return.

Hoosier Delegation requests...ICP.