I didn't plan on having to say that, since I like the X-Men and I think the Avengers were reckless in their calculations on how to deal with the Phoenix, and a lot of this can be laid at their feet (and I think the Phoenix would need to be dealt with at some point in time-- just not by barging in on the P5 at Utopia).
Bloody hands? Check. Trying to choke your lady love to the point of tears? Check. Cyclops sure looks evil here. At least evil enough to be evil. Yes, kiddies. Misogyny is alive and well in the 616. Thank you, Cyclops.
Lol so much cyclops hate here. But whatever there are also many people that dislikes emma so if she bites the dust I will be cheering the hole day. I hope marvel has the guts to do it, but saddly I don't think they have.
My problem with Cyclops is that they turned him from the mutant Captain America into something wholly unrecognizable. He's driven. That's for sure. However, you can't really argue that the ends justify the means when people are getting hurt in the process. To Captain America, Cyclops is the mutant Hitler. He'll do just about anything in the name of promoting and protecting his superior race. He'll jail people without trials. He'll kill his opposition. He'll use the media & propaganda win the people over. His whole "remake the world" thing amounts to world domination. I fail to see how Cyclops is the good guy anymore. Cyclops wants to protect mutants. That's okay. At everybody else's expense? Not so okay.
This is one of the reasons why I'm dying to read Bendis' All New X-Men. I'm pretty sure that the Lee/Kirby era O5 would practically have a fit with what's going on today. Xavier's been pushed to the background. Cyclops' trusted advisor is Magneto. The X-Men have/had their own hit-squad. Most of the team has a criminal record. The present, I agree, would look like Days of Future Past to them. To them, the X-Men of today might as well be the new Brotherhood.
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I think many of the same responses above can easily be expanded into Cyclops' actions in AvX. I don't agree with it, but in a lot of ways, now that Cyclops has Phoenix power, he has extended that type of... paternalism to all the human race. Along with the paternalism, he has a very militarized mind-set, so he's used to having to react swiftly and violently to threats.
Now I papered over the big thing which you sorta dealt with-- Cyclops' plans and strategy leave a lot of other people's lives broken in their wake. And I'm not talking about villains' lives. A lot of good X-men and good people get hurt so that Cyclops can "do what is necessary." All the while, "doing what is necessary" just leaves the X-men more isolated and with less mutants. Scott's response? Do more! I said this in a previous post-- every body left lying in the wake of his plans is just one more reason for him to continue on-- it proves that the world is against him or something. It is kinda obnoxious about him. It was good for a while, but now it's not. And it's weird that he doesn't see that, and at this point in time-- AvX-- it looks like he's going to skate away free.