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    Quote Originally Posted by kelly_warrior_princess View Post
    When compared to Reed Richards, you better believe it. Against Reed Richards, you are a "plank" as you put it... So am i & everyone here. Being a super genius is kind of Reeds thing.
    There is only one person in the universe smarter than Reed Richards.

    Becuase Reed can explain to you in exact technical detail why you cannot build a quantum tunneller to open a gateway to the negative zone using a half dozen coconunt shells and a transitor radio, while the Professor from Gilligans Island would just go ahead and do it.
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    I agree with kelly_warrior_princess in the whole wisdom vs. intelligence debate. A genius 6 year old child for example is not wiser than a 50-something year old adult who has many life experiences behind them.
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    I'm going to agree with Kelly on this one.

    Speaking as someone who teaches science and the value of data, I can say that data itself is utterly meaningless if you lack the ability to critically analyse it and look for what it means. There are a lot of people who gather data all their lives and never seem to learn from it.

    Which is where the point above comes in - anyone can gather knowledge, but if that were the case for determining wisdom then the people who won big on Jeopardy would be ruling the world.

    If you look at Reed Richards actions in Civil War, then I could easily say that he was smart enough to build a clone of Thor but not wise enough to see that it was a dumb idea in the first place. The same goes for Tony Stark - smart enough to get in charge of SHIELD and the Initiative but lacking wisdom to look beyond his ego and see that if something happened to him it would leave the whole super-hero community and the prey of a maniac like Norman Osborne.

    But perhaps the best example of gaining wisdom in the Marvel Universe is Spider-Man, and this shows in the recent movie too. Peter Parker is a frikkin genius, a science guru. But he has to learn the wisdom of using his powers and that only comes from experience. Being able to build his own web-shooters and solve problems in complex forumula shows Peter is smart, but when he understands that "With great power comes great responsibility" he shows he has the capacity to be wise as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boonciaver View Post
    I agree with kelly_warrior_princess in the whole wisdom vs. intelligence debate. A genius 6 year old child for example is not wiser than a 50-something year old adult who has many life experiences behind them.
    Actually, you maybe be on to a third type of knowledge that overlaps with intelligence and wisdom, similar to how wisdom can overlap with intelligence (e.g. experience; you can also have a 50 year old genus; in real life, despite what should be theoretically possibly, someone characterized as a genus has about as much of a change as anybody of say, becoming a CEO or Prime Minister); if Athena were unable to solve the arithmetic of an elementary school student than she clearly would fall out of supernatural status in no time; what you're on to is a later redefinition of wisdom that broke it down into another category referred to as intelligence in modern terminology; however, ponder this, how long would the majority of people characterized as a genus last in a neighborhood characterized as a war zone, versus a majority of people referred to as wise?
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    I'm just going to answer the OP. Can WW beat Galactus? No. There is no way WW can beat Galactus. This would be laughed off Rumbles. "Magic Tiara" ... Seriously?

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    Wouldn't she put the Purple Ray on "shrink" and shoot him with it until he was a more manageable size?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Prince View Post
    Wouldn't she put the Purple Ray on "shrink" and shoot him with it until he was a more manageable size?

    #wayswonderwomancanbeatgalactus
    I'll go with the "Vegeto turned into a candy" defense, and say that a smaller Galactus isn't necessaraly a weaker Galactus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Auguste Dupin View Post
    I'll go with the "Vegeto turned into a candy" defense, and say that a smaller Galactus isn't necessaraly a weaker Galactus.
    Haha.. So EVEN tiny Galactus wins!?! Diana can't cut a break.
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    Wisdom would be WW knowing the ultimate Nullifier exists and and being smart enough to use it against Galactus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fate's Faith View Post
    I liked Dazzler when she could manipulate light more skillfully. But then they fix her so she wouldn't be more interesting than a flashbulb.
    Did you read her one shot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamBATFAN View Post
    Wisdom would be WW knowing the ultimate Nullifier exists and and being smart enough to use it against Galactus.
    Not really; how would wisdom cause Wonder Woman to know that the Ultimate Nullifier existed? The only way she could know about it is if someone told her about it; and why would Galactus provide Wonder Woman with access to it so that she could use it as a weapon against him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dshipp17 View Post
    Not really; how would wisdom cause
    Wisdom doesnt cause anything.

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    Wonder Woman to know that the Ultimate Nullifier existed?
    then maybe she's not so wise

    Quote Originally Posted by dshipp17 View Post
    The only way she could know about it is if someone told her about it;
    now you're getting it

    Quote Originally Posted by dshipp17 View Post
    and why would Galactus provide Wonder Woman with access to it so that she could use it as a weapon against him?
    then maybe she's not so wise

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamBATFAN View Post
    Wisdom doesnt cause anything.



    then maybe she's not so wise



    now you're getting it


    then maybe she's not so wise
    Breaking my phrase up didn't allow you to address the point before you; your point suggest that wisdom produces knowledge and the point was how can that occur for something that one has no idea of an existence? Wonder Woman is (or can be) wise; it's just that she's faced with a dilemma that wisdom may be of little help.

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    She'd tell him that she loves him even though he eats worlds. He would be so moved that he would spare the earth and go off to eat some other world instead.

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    I think the more salient point is how nifty it would be for Wonder Woman to meet Dazzler! Give us another DC/Marvel crossover and show us Diana taking Nessie or Cassie--not Zola, Nessie or Cassie--to a Dazzler concert.
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