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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagreus View Post
    My worst:

    1) The Thing. I like the Thing, I don't like him as an Avenger. He's wearing a 4. If you're wearing a 4, you don't belong on the team, at least get a new set of shorts.
    But wearing an X is okay?

    New rule for Avengers membership. Unleas you have a bomber jacket with an A on the arm in your closet, you never were and never will be an Avenger.
    (Although, considering that Thing joined before they started to sport those, maybe he recieved his in the mail.)

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    I heart Silverclaw.
    I thought it was a cool idea that Jarvis was sponsoring a child somewhere secretly. Her powers may have been a riff on Snowbird's but they were kinda unique to the Avengers. I thought she was a cool Avenger in training and would be great in the Academy.

    My picks for least fave Avengers:

    1. War Machine (don't like guns)
    2. The Thing (sorry Ben)
    3. Mr. Fantastic
    4. Wolverine
    5. Echo
    6. Jewel (though may like her elsewhere)
    7. Capt Britain /Lionheart
    8. Falcon (not crazy about his powers)
    9. D-Man
    10. Rulk

    Love Storm but her membership was abortive. Have not warmed up to Quake.

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    Newsarama not including Jessica Jones/Jewel on that list invalidates it for me. I'd take Sentry over her any day of the week even though both of them were retconned into the MU. Eventually you had some sympathy for him but Jessica is just a whiny, boring shrew.
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    For me:

    Wolverine
    Storm
    Iron Fist
    Dr. Strange
    Thing
    Luke Cage
    Jessica Jones
    Spider-Woman
    Daredevil
    Red Hulk

    None of these people, no matter how good some of them are as characters, belong in the Avengers, they're simply a random selection of characters brought in by Bendis because he happened to like them. Half of them are or were members of other teams, others just don't work as team players. The Avengers need to be the classic team they were before Disassembled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony ingram View Post
    For me:

    Wolverine
    Storm
    Iron Fist
    Dr. Strange
    Thing
    Luke Cage
    Jessica Jones
    Spider-Woman
    Daredevil
    Red Hulk

    None of these people, no matter how good some of them are as characters, belong in the Avengers, they're simply a random selection of characters brought in by Bendis because he happened to like them. Half of them are or were members of other teams, others just don't work as team players. The Avengers need to be the classic team they were before Disassembled.
    I'm so bored with this martyrdom routine, this halo all you X-men love to polish. Self-described soldiers adorned in an "X" with no dedication to what it actually stands for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zen-aku View Post
    Not seeing the humour, to be honest. The Avengers are a classic team that for decades was comprised of Marvel's best and brightest team players. Cap, Thor, Iron Man, Vision and Scarlet Witch, Hank and Jan, Hawkeye, Beast, Wonder Man...those guys were the Avengers. Dr. Strange? Power Man and Iron Fist? Daredevil? If they're anything at all, they're Defenders, though mostly they're solo characters. Time to bring back the real Avengers.

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    I kind of agree about that list but Luke Cage has been an exciting character in the book.
    Life is what you make it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by icctrombone View Post
    I kind of agree about that list but Luke Cage has been an exciting character in the book.
    Cage is a good character, but I just think he's too much of a street level character to be an Avenger. He worked better with the Defenders, back in the 70s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony ingram View Post
    Not seeing the humour, to be honest. The Avengers are a classic team that for decades was comprised of Marvel's best and brightest team players. Cap, Thor, Iron Man, Vision and Scarlet Witch, Hank and Jan, Hawkeye, Beast, Wonder Man...those guys were the Avengers. Dr. Strange? Power Man and Iron Fist? Daredevil? If they're anything at all, they're Defenders, though mostly they're solo characters. Time to bring back the real Avengers.
    its funny cause it was easy the most butt hurt pathetic post in the thread, and u seemed to confused worst for characters i don't like, each one has proved they are worthy of being avengers a couple time over right now

    especially Cage and Fist

    so i continue to laugh at you

    I'm so bored with this martyrdom routine, this halo all you X-men love to polish. Self-described soldiers adorned in an "X" with no dedication to what it actually stands for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zen-aku View Post
    its funny cause it was easy the most butt hurt pathetic post in the thread,
    Ah, I see. Pathetic personal abuse from someone who can't even use correct written English. I'm crushed.
    and u seemed to confused worst for characters i don't like,
    Aside from the fact that your sentence construction is almost incomprehensible, I never said I didn't like them, only that they were not, in my opinion, Avengers.
    each one has proved they are worthy of being avengers a couple time over right now

    especially Cage and Fist

    so i continue to laugh at you

    Being laughed at by semi-literate nobodies bothers me not at all. I gave a legitimate opinion in response to the question in the thread title. Deal with it. And grow up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony ingram View Post
    Ah, I see. Pathetic personal abuse from someone who can't even use correct written English. I'm crushed. Aside from the fact that your sentence construction is almost incomprehensible, I never said I didn't like them, only that they were not, in my opinion, Avengers.
    Your opinion is wrong how eve, say i didn't like captain america, cant just say he isn't an avenger, your post is a biased butt hurt rant that they aren't the same set of character you like form a particular run, faling to even see that the avengers have never been a core set of characters beyond the big three.

    I can actually argue opinions as opposed to you who went with the pretentious nazi grammar approach, which means you are still a subject of mockery.


    Being laughed at by semi-literate nobodies bothers me not at all. I gave a legitimate opinion in response to the question in the thread title. Deal with it. And grow up.
    Lol Thread title isn't a question if your gonna call some one literate you might bother to actually read.
    Last edited by Zen-aku; 08-02-2012 at 04:38 PM.
    I'm so bored with this martyrdom routine, this halo all you X-men love to polish. Self-described soldiers adorned in an "X" with no dedication to what it actually stands for.

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    has anyone mentioned deathcry? who names a hero deathcry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tingray View Post
    The thing that always bugged me most about Sentry is that they retconned him into continuity. I grew up reading decades worth of comics with Reed and Ben being best friends, and all of a sudden Sentry was Reed's best bud?! I don't think so.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lqI0Cw7wjk
    This vid isn't too bad, describes why Sentry sucks and the RETCON of Caps Death and the dumb writing that destroyed adult Loki

    http://www.comicvine.com/news/off-my...e=3&sort=first
    I may not be the best historian when it comes to the Sentry's past but I have to wonder when this actually took place. The story was he and Reed were close friends. Reed was the best man at Sentry's wedding. When did Sentry and Rogue hook up. My impression was Bob Reynolds and Lindy would have been married early in the Marvel Universe history (as in it would've happened in the 60s or 70s, our time). Rogue isn't as old as Reed and Bob. When did they have their relationship and how old was Rogue compared to when he was married. Perhaps it's best to just not think about that, or this whole thing.
    http://theshortbox.com/2010/10/benty...t-have-sucked/
    Sentry both idea and character lay dormant for 4 years, until Quesada and Bendis made sweet sweet love in the backroom of a seedy bar and then went to Vegas and got married and as a wedding present Quesada gave Bendis the Avengers and then Bendis killed the Avengers and made a new team. Bendis plucked Sentry out of obscurity and thrust him back into the spotlight (as he did later with the Hood, and probably some other characters) and essentially set him up for failure. Because of his resurgence into the limelight, Paul Jenkins was called upon to craft a new solo story detailing the origins of the Sentry. Which he did.

    And here’s where it all went wrong. Now they had to explain. And it’s painfully obvious that they stopped at the first idea. “Really really really powerful super soldier serum” Is just below “Wolverine’s son” as stupid origin.

    Sorry Daken, it’s true. It’s really true.

    Apparently now he could move one second ahead in time, or something. That doesn’t give you super-powers, or give the the power of a million exploding suns. That just makes you slightly early for things.

    Later his powers were revealed to be similar to the Molecule Man’s.

    Still later, shortly before his “death,” he (or the Void) was revealed to be the Angel of Death, or some biblical power of that fashion.

    One second after this revelation it was clear that nobody knew what they were talking about, and that the Sentry was truly a Void–a creativity void. You can tell when the wheels are spinning, and this had the stink of a group of writer’s sitting around a big table with coffee and donuts wondering what the hell they were going to do with the Sentry. He’s the Void! He’s a guy named Bob! He’s powerful, he’s crazy, he’s weak, he has a wife, his wife’s dead, he’s easily corrupted, blah blah blah…he ceased to be a character. He became a series of origins and a costume with nothing to hold it up but quirks and the vague hint of “mystery”
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    Sentry and Jessica Jones have to be 1 & 2.

    Sentry because of his appalling retcons into being the centre of the Marvel verse,
    Jones for her general whinny bitchiness.

    Other contenders would include Gilgamesh (not sure why, but he should have
    been a bigger deal than he turned out to be), Deathcry (2nd most annoying female
    in Marvel verse after Luke's ball and chain), Starfox, Swordsman, Sandman,
    and any of the FF (they should stick to their own team).
    Busy having an agenda for daring to disagree with a chip on his shoulder bigot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kurumais View Post
    has anyone mentioned deathcry? who names a hero deathcry?
    Did you prefer when she was renamed Lifecry in the Dead Avengers mini-series?

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