Secret Avengers #29 *Spoilers*

**Vic Vega** · 07-26-2012, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by KurtW95

Well, this week he has also killed off Psylocke, Deathlok, and Bennet Brant (Crime Master).

I assume that Psylocke won't be dead for long. Deathlok is always getting killed.

And I have no idea who Crime Master is.

That's like 1 and 1/4 deaths not three.

**Wellman** · 07-26-2012, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by Rob London

Well, you know what they say. You f*** one goat...

O'Grady stole his costume, burned a dude's face off, almost had sex with his best friend's girlfriend atop said friend's grave, impregnated and abandoned said best friend's girlfriend, repeatedly spied on women in the shower, tried to pick up underage Avengers Academy students with booze...even if he had been a little nicer lately, I'd still be calling that dude a dirtbag.

While all that is true, (and the guy whose face he burnt turn out to be a serial killer) dude has been trying change for a while and was instrumental in taking down the Skrulls' 'Plan B' within the Secret Invasion Avengers: The Initiative tie in, helped the take down Osborn's Thunderbolts from within, in Brubaker's first arc, saved all his comrades on Mars, helped out Hank Pym to save Golaith's digital soul in their mini and in Rememder's first arc risked (and lost not that they know) his life on a risky retcon mission where he had no backup. And that is just the stuff his teammates SHOULD know him for. His other personal issues really aren't stuff I think he would admit that easily, let alone something that should be brought up in dossier meeting and distributed to his teammates like no one else doesn't have skeletons in their closet. Do people bring up the millions in property damage done by the Hulk, Daredevil's activities while he ran the Hand, Wolverine's past or Tony and/or Carol's drinking problems that easily?

O'Grady was a guy who while a SHIELD agent was an admitted frequently to being a coward and a slacker desk jockey. O'Grady was on a slow road to redemption and while he was admittedly a little perverted, when the push came to shove, he would often try to do the right thing even when he hated doing it or knew that it would be a failure. Man was a hero, he wasn't Captain America, but this is Marvel peeking on women and occasionally acting like a immature frat boy early on is far from the worst things a hero has done that has been called an Avenger.

**Dr. Sonic** · 07-26-2012, 08:58 AM

I'm not a big fan of Venom, especially in the role of hero. But I like Flash Thompson alright. And I definitely picked up on the subtle flirtation/attraction between him and Val leading up to this issue. I thought their almost getting it on together was organic in development and I kind of hope they end up an item.

**KurtW95** · 07-26-2012, 01:34 PM

Looks like Remender's gonna kill Max Fury as well.

http://www.formspring.me/TomBrevoort...46355672680521

**Monty_Cristo** · 07-26-2012, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by KurtW95

Looks like Remender's gonna kill Max Fury as well.

http://www.formspring.me/TomBrevoort...46355672680521

well he doesn't look like Samuel L Jackson. what did you expect?

...oh snap. they're about to introduce a second LMD, Jax (short for Jackson) Fury.

**celticguy** · 07-26-2012, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by KurtW95

Looks like Remender's gonna kill Max Fury as well.

http://www.formspring.me/TomBrevoort...46355672680521

I wonder if he is going to disappear from Winter Soldier as well.

**Lascoden** · 07-26-2012, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by celticguy

I wonder if he is going to disappear from Winter Soldier as well.

I think you're thinking of Nick Fury. Max is an evil robo-clone of Nick (an old LMD gone Terminator).

**KurtW95** · 07-26-2012, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by celticguy

I wonder if he is going to disappear from Winter Soldier as well.

Max or Nick? Nick better not.

**Codah** · 07-26-2012, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by The Avenging One

I have. The only real interaction between the two was at the end of the initial arc where Flash shot out a playful quip but that is hardly build-up to an actual romantic interest. You got something better in mind?

Yes.

Originally Posted by Lady_Alternate

Did you miss the flirtation and tension when Flash saved Val from the Descendants? It's what got people buzzing, and this is the progression of that.

This ^ :)

**Moriarty** · 07-26-2012, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by Dr. Sonic

I'm not a big fan of Venom, especially in the role of hero. But I like Flash Thompson alright. And I definitely picked up on the subtle flirtation/attraction between him and Val leading up to this issue. I thought their almost getting it on together was organic in development and I kind of hope they end up an item.

at first i wasn't cool with Flash being Venom, it just seemed like a bad idea. but the current Venom title has been really great and i've enjoyed his time on Secret Avengers thus far.

**celticguy** · 07-26-2012, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by Lascoden

I think you're thinking of Nick Fury. Max is an evil robo-clone of Nick (an old LMD gone Terminator).

I thought the poster meant all takes on the character.I never read the book I thought it was just a Nick Fury Max tittle and excuse to have him have bloodier kills like the punisher.

**KurtW95** · 07-26-2012, 06:15 PM

Well, according to the new Remender interview Eric is dead and the one working with"Father" is an LMD.
Rick, why must you kill everybody?

**nojarama** · 07-27-2012, 12:01 PM

Another great issue. The cover was awful & very misleading (no Beast, nor Captain Britain at all- BTW: Marvel, when you do sh*t like this, it makes hate you). But, both the writing & and the artwork inside, made up for it. Can't wait to see what happens next!!!

**Monty_Cristo** · 07-27-2012, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by nojarama

Another great issue. The cover was awful & very misleading (no Beast, nor Captain Britain at all- BTW: Marvel, when you do sh*t like this, it makes hate you). But, both the writing & and the artwork inside, made up for it. Can't wait to see what happens next!!!

i like how you can see all of Black Widow's butt while she's leaping towards the readers. with that kind of flexibility, Bucky must be one lucky deprogrammed assassin.

**Monty_Cristo** · 07-27-2012, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by KurtW95

Well, according to the new Remender interview Eric is dead and the one working with"Father" is an LMD.
Rick, why must you kill everybody?

there's still a sliver of hope. Remender's interview did mention a deal of some sort between the O'Grady-LMD and Father. if it was just a descendant, why would Father have to deal at all? i'm hoping that it's just the body that is artificial. but i guess we'll see when the Black Ant shows up. i'm holding out hope that Parvel's special descendant ability is something that will help Eric.