Now I'm not saying it's not OK to call someone out on their stupidity, just that there are plenty of intelligent posters on the boards already who are well-equipped to do that. What they're not equipped to do (which you are) is speak to the real business of this hobby that we love, or add to the conversation with that perspective. Also, even if this is just one of many comic book-devoted websites with its own tiny community of comic book lovers and nerds you are still representing Marvel. You can obviously choose to do that by engaging with trolls and idiots (who in my opinion are not worth the engaging with in the first place), but personally I feel you'd be best served focusing on building excitement for your brand and engaging with people who want to have conversations or who have legitimate questions about the company and its characters. Most of us would love to have your job remember (I'm sure there are some aspects we wouldn't like, but I'm sure it's worth it).
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A Fool for the Foom
Don't worry. Things ain't so bad.
I do have a good job though and I'll love it as long as it lasts. Few people seem to do it forever so one day maybe you'll get someone who comports themselves how you want them to.
Did it ever occur to anyone that the people who review these books have their own likes and dislikes when it comes to writing and art, and simply enjoy those books without caring whether or not they are Marvel or DC? I mean, if you enjoy a book and a CBR reviewer doesn't is that really going to prevent you from reading it? Every now and then I'll read a CBR review and consider it, but at the same time I consider the reviews of some posters here on this forum that I have grown accustomed to and trust their taste.
I think it might have something to do with DC dropping the ball recently. This whole DCNU blows except for 3 - 4 books. And this is coming from a long time DC supporter.
A Fool for the Foom
You brought him into the conversation, though. You seemed deadset on declaring how he should act on these boards.
Someone takes a shot at him, he takes a shot back, the Chicago way.
Busiek and Simone interact differently, true, but that's them.
People are different.
I just mentioned his behavior in the context of the conversation of Marvel bias on the site, though he's obviously welcome and right to come defend himself since he's being discussed. What I was (originally) saying was that the way he tends to interact with other posters (again, when I've run into conversations involving him) would get me or anyone not working for a major comic company banned from the site for at least a day and if repeated probably for life where he seems to be getting a pass. It's true that people interact differently and are different, but my further comments were my expressions of preference for Simone and Busiek's style (friendly, informative, and classy). No different from posters expressing their dislike of certain comments from posters like Cavemold who used to rile up people on the Community boards (whatever happened to that guy?), and I've been a lot nicer discussing Mr. Wacker than most posters were interacting with Cavemold.
I understand people might wish to defend him, but I hope they can be objective enough to read my comments and see that I'm not being rude or trying to harass Mr. Wacker. I also haven't taken any shots or twisted anything he's said, and again if one were to look objectively at the comments even in this thread coming from Mr. Wacker they'd see that's not the same on his side. And again, that's his choice.
A Fool for the Foom
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Also, people don't generally impugn Simone or Busiek's competence using "facts" they just pulled out of their asses. That tends to lead to a different conversation than the ones pros usually have on these boards.
"If you can't say anything good about someone, sit right here by me." - Alice Roosevelt Longworth, on manners
"It's not whether you win or lose, it's whether I win or lose." - Peter David, on life
I've not questioned his competence at all (from what I've read from sources I'd trust, he's an excellent editor and joy to work with so I'd tend to believe that's the case), nor have I pulled any facts out of my ass (though if you'd like to bring up specifics instead of taking shots I'd be more than happy to go over them with you Mr. P). Also, if you don't think that happens to other creators/people in the business you really haven't been paying attention, it happens all of the time. The difference is just in the way it's handled (see the Kurt Busiek question thread when he makes corrections).
It's not a fiction I've created, nobody is a misunderstood nice guy getting piled onto here, it's all plain to see from reading his comments. I've yet to see one (including this exchange) where he hasn't taken a shot at another poster and/or twisted somebody's words or point. That's observable behavior, not an alternate reality. My pointing that out (and contrasting with both other people in the business and the majority of folk who post on these boards) isn't a shot at him, it's just looking at things objectively and providing an opinion on whether that is a good thing or a bad thing. Since I'm not going to change his mind obviously and nothing he's said is going to change mine I don't see any reason to continue this conversation (it's also distracting from the thread topic). If anyone would like to discuss (or bash me for having a negative opinion of a more popular/famous poster) feel free to PM me (or get your "zingers" in here so they can be seen and chuckled at, whichever you prefer).
A Fool for the Foom
Are you ever gonna post any of the stuff I wrote that I should have been banned for?
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