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    I loved the movie a lot more than Gotham Knight but it could use more narration and internal monologue imo.
    They improvised a couple of lines like Batman saying f*cking amateur on his first night out.
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    I think it was a great adaptation, and Bryan Cranston was fantastic. However, I think I've grown weary of the tone that Miller established for Batman. The dark, brooding tone that people once found refreshing now feels more like drowning and wallowing, probably because this is pretty much the way Batman has been for more than 15 years. Makes me appreciate Grant Morrison's efforts to reintroduce the more zany elements to Batman.

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    I bought it when it came out last year. Great adaptation of the comic. I liked how the story is told from Jim Gordon's point of view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidocq View Post
    Most of the changes were Darren Aronofsky(You know, the guy who actually knew how to write movie scripts at the time and taught Miller how to do it) and Miller approved and helped with the dialogue and some plot points, but those radical plot points were Aronofsky's. And Honestly the script wasn't nearly as aweful as you guys are saying. It could have been an AWESOME Eleseworlds and as a Film, I seriously think that Aronofsky could have made it work, there are few who could, probably one, but Aronofsky? Yeah. Definitely.
    Yeah, Frank Miller said that he and Darren Aronofsky both wrote and submitted separate Batman: Year One movie drafts. A poor Batman who lives above a garage and was raised in the garage by a black ghetto mechanic called Little Al and the Batmobile being a rusty old black Lincoln with a bus engine in it were Darren Aronofsky's ideas. Darren Aronofsky's concept was a Taxi Driver meets The French Connection style hard R-rated Batman set in the 1970s. Frank Miller said, "I'm the lighter one of the team and I'm not used to that."
    http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/frank-m...ore=1330500992

    Frank Miller said, "Darren and I had a blast on YEAR ONE, but developed many a friendly difference. Mine lived in the subway, and revealed Wayne Manor to Selina in time for a big climax with the Joker. Just to name a couple of the differences. We both submitted separate drafts, but the whole works went south when Darren left as director and Warner cleaned house."
    Batman moving temporary into the underground subway system below Gotham as the first Batcave with Catwoman is referenced to in All-Star Batman & Robin the Boy Wonder #10 by Frank Miller.
    Here's the Batman: Year One movie script by Frank Miller in a horribly misspelled review which bashes the script for Gordon cheating on his wife with Sarah Essen, which is from the Batman: Year One comic, but it's Miller's version of the script: http://d1swj4tglyglq1.cloudfront.net/node/9819

    Director Darren Aronofsky wanted a black Alfred, so Miller added that bit, and Aronofsky wanted the film to be set in the 70's because Aronofsky wanted to give the film a feel similar to The French Connection and Taxi Driver. Miller said, "The film will be dark and very noir like, much more detailed and on a smaller scale than the other films. It will focus more on Batman than Gordon (compared to the Batman: Year One comic)."

    Darren Aronofsky had some radically different ideas for Batman. Here's the radically different Darren Aronofsky version, which Miller's name is on since Miller was the official script writer for the project, but this is actually Aronofsky's version: http://leonscripts.users5.50megs.com...ONEscript.htm/

    Frank Miller and Darren Aronofsky were both doing different versions of Batman's origin. Neither of them were not trying to do completely faithful adaptions of the Batman: Year One comic. The difference is Miller was embellishing Batman: Year One, while Aronofsky was doing his own version. Aronofsky had no desire at all to be faithful to the Year One comic. In Aronofsky's version he lives in an apartment above a garage. Bruce Wayne being raised in the garage by a mechanic called Little Al. The Little Al character takes the place of the traditional Alfred.
    http://mysterymanonfilm.blogspot.com...-year-one.html

    Miller said, "Ideas pour out of him. In many ways I think I'm the lighter one of the team, and I'm not used to that...I can't really talk about what's in the movie, though, because I think Warner Brothers would have somebody beat me up. And asking a screenwriter what the movie's going to be like is like asking a doorman whether a building is going to be condemned."

    Aronofsky said "I was never planning to direct Year One. I was more interested in writing a screenplay with Frank Miller on Batman. My pitch was always very realistic. I wasn't interested in fantasy, I was interested in the psychology of a real man dressing in a disguise to pay out real vengeance. The batmobile was a souped up lincoln continental with a bus engine. It was technical and rusty and extremely violent. They would have never let us have violence."
    http://www.deadprogrammer.com/tag/imdb/
    Frank Miller disagrees with a very realistic Batman. On the documentary Legends of the Dark Knight: The History of Batman, Miller said, "People are attempting to bring a superficial reality to superheroes which is rather stupid. They work best as the flamboyant fantasies they are. I mean, these are characters that are broad and big."

    Aronofsky said, "It was a hard, R-rated Batman," he reflects. "What I pitched them was Travis Bickle meets The French Connection - a real guy running around fighting crime. No super-powers, no villains, just corruption. For the Batmobile, I had him taking a bus engine and sticking it in a black Lincoln. Real low-tech geek stuff."
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2007/apr/27/1

    Aronofsky said, "I'd want to bring an independent guerrilla flavor to Batman." Aronofsky also said, "I think my Batman will be a little intense. It's not going to be pure entertainment. We will totally work on that level where is very entertaining but it's also going to be very very intense."
    http://aronofksy.tripod.com/batmany1.html
    Aronofsky also said, "I never really wanted to make a Batman film, it was a kind of bait and switch strategy. I was working on Requiem for a Dream and I got a phone call that Warner Bros wanted to talk about Batman. At the time I had this idea for a film called The Fountain which I knew was gonna be this big movie and I was thinking, 'Is Warners really gonna give me $80 million to make a film about love and death after I come off a heroin movie?' So my theory was if I can write this Batman film and they could perceive me as a writer for it."
    http://www.cinemablend.com/new/EIFF-...One-13673.html

    Composer Clint Mansell was planned to do the score for Aronofsky's Batman: Year One.
    Christian Bale stated in '01 that he would be very interested in taking the part of Batman and working with Aronofsky.

    Aronofsky said in the book Tales from Development Hell that his Batman: Year One wasn't greenlighted because Warner Brothers found it to be too violent and that an R-rated Batman film wouldn't appeal to children. More importantly, Aronofsky's version deviates too far from the Bat mythos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Iskow View Post
    I think it was a great adaptation, and Bryan Cranston was fantastic. However, I think I've grown weary of the tone that Miller established for Batman. The dark, brooding tone that people once found refreshing now feels more like drowning and wallowing, probably because this is pretty much the way Batman has been for more than 15 years. Makes me appreciate Grant Morrison's efforts to reintroduce the more zany elements to Batman.
    Miller's take on the character was dark, but not unhopeful. What got lost when a lot other people tried to pick up on his tone was that essential hopefulness of the character, I thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Thompson View Post
    Miller's take on the character was dark, but not unhopeful. What got lost when a lot other people tried to pick up on his tone was that essential hopefulness of the character, I thought.
    I really didn't get that hope was part of Miller's Batman's vocabulary. Batman in Year One might seem hopeful because he still hasn't realized his full potential. Batman in DKR, however, feels like a man determined to destroy himself.

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    Warner Bros. just released a first peek at The Dark Knight Returns Part 1, which comes out in October.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Iskow View Post
    I really didn't get that hope was part of Miller's Batman's vocabulary. Batman in Year One might seem hopeful because he still hasn't realized his full potential. Batman in DKR, however, feels like a man determined to destroy himself.
    How'd that story end again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Thompson View Post
    How'd that story end again?
    It's been a while. Didn't Batman get the electric chair?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Iskow View Post
    It's been a while. Didn't Batman get the electric chair?
    No. That'd be the end of the first Sin City. The end of The Dark Knight Returns had Wayne alive and well and preparing to get a new generation of followers ready to carry on in his name.

    "This will be a good life… good enough."

    Nolan wasn't the only one to give Bruce a happy ending.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Thompson View Post
    Nolan wasn't the only one to give Bruce a happy ending.
    Ah, that's right. I guess it's time to reread it. Maybe get something new out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Iskow View Post
    Ah, that's right. I guess it's time to reread it. Maybe get something new out of it.
    I re-read it the other day, and it's sort of impressive, I thought, how well it holds up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Iskow View Post
    Batman in DKR, however, feels like a man determined to destroy himself.
    Even more, he seems to enjoy pain, and the feeling of being old. I have in mind the scene when he describes his bones cracking...
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    Brian Cranston was incredible as Gordon.
    But Bruce Wayne's voice actor (Dude from the OC) was just awful.
    Any time I consider watching Year One again, I pretty much change my mind because that horrible monotonous performance is the one thing that really sticks out in the movie, even more than Gordon's awesome story.
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