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    Quote Originally Posted by Walsh06 View Post
    Also in cricket they absolutely scream at the the umpires if they think theres an LBW.
    A wholly different scenario. They are appealing for a wicket, not instructing an umpire on their duty.

    Watch what happens when a player disagrees with a decision in cricket. See how far they get, and how hard their come down on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vibranium View Post
    NFL refs get a lot of that...between defensive players shouting signals on top of all the other chatter on the field, they manage

    again I agree that its a bit shitty to do, but referees are supposed to be trained to block that out
    The NFL can do what they like. Football is a different matter and the bottom line is if the American player did that then it needs investigated so that if video replays show that then she can get a retrospective yellow card. Also, looking at the highlights of the gold medal game what the Canadians were saying about the US being a bit tasty looks to be spot on. They're a good side but they seem to like using the elbow just a wee bit too much, so they don't really want to pick up a reputation like Leeds did in the 70's.

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    we were talking about outside influence on a referee. Point stands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thehod View Post
    A wholly different scenario. They are appealing for a wicket, not instructing an umpire on their duty.

    Watch what happens when a player disagrees with a decision in cricket. See how far they get, and how hard their come down on.
    Same in rugby. Watch a player try to pick and argument with an official and see how quickly he gets shot down assuming he's not yellow carded and sin binned.

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    I see Yorkshire have won another gold medal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by king mob View Post
    Same in rugby. Watch a player try to pick and argument with an official and see how quickly he gets shot down assuming he's not yellow carded and sin binned.
    I didnt see it but did the girl actually pick a fight with the ref? Cos if that happened then I change my mind. But I assumed by what ye were saying she simply appealed.
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    Actually they do that in cricket because (in terms of an LBW) a player is not out unless one of tthe fielding side appeals to the umpire or the striking batsman chooses to walk.

    It could be the clearest LBW you've ever seen but if the batsman stays at his crease and the opposition don't ask the umpire to review then it's not out. It's a bit crazy and quite often I've seen professional umpires make the mistake of raising their finger before the appeal.

    Funnily enough a very quiet audible 'Howzat!' is enough, the screaming in some players case isn't necessary.
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    Holy crap,that 800m was out of this world.I remember running a 49.4 400m at 16 and feeling pain like you wouldn't believe for the last 50 metres.He eased to 49.2 for the opening lap and then runs a second lap at almost the same pace.Appropriately superhuman for this forum.Not a sign of distress on his face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcgaffer View Post
    Actually they do that in cricket because (in terms of an LBW) a player is not out unless one of tthe fielding side appeals to the umpire or the striking batsman chooses to walk.

    It could be the clearest LBW you've ever seen but if the batsman stays at his crease and the opposition don't ask the umpire to review then it's not out. It's a bit crazy and quite often I've seen professional umpires make the mistake of raising their finger before the appeal.

    Funnily enough a very quiet audible 'Howzat!' is enough, the screaming in some players case isn't necessary.
    Technically, all dismissals in cricket require an appeal.
    In practice, some are so obvious that the need to do so has become moot, such as bowled or some catches.

    The screaming isn't necessary, but a more confident appeal can sometimes make an umpire take the appeal somewhat more seriously and give him cause to consider the decision a little more stringently, but rarely does the strength of the appeal sway the umpire one way or another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walsh06 View Post
    I didnt see it but did the girl actually pick a fight with the ref? Cos if that happened then I change my mind. But I assumed by what ye were saying she simply appealed.
    The Canadians are protesting because a player was trying to get a penalty by influencing the ref which may (or may not) have worked. The point you miss is that this is cheating and the Canadians have a point.

    As I've said, I've not seen the game but I know the rules and how the game should be played. If the American did that then she was trying to cheat. You don't need to be Roy Keane shouting in a ref's face to try to influence the course of a game/

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    Quote Originally Posted by limerick View Post
    Holy crap,that 800m was out of this world.I remember running a 49.4 400m at 16 and feeling pain like you wouldn't believe for the last 50 metres.He eased to 49.2 for the opening lap and then runs a second lap at almost the same pace.Appropriately superhuman for this forum.Not a sign of distress on his face.
    As Hod and myself have been saying, he's a fucking beast.

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    Aye, I forget that attimes because in most cases the batsman does the decent thing and walks if he knows he's out, especially if it's as obvious as being caught.
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    Quote Originally Posted by king mob View Post
    The Canadians are protesting because a player was trying to get a penalty by influencing the ref which may (or may not) have worked. The point you miss is that this is cheating and the Canadians have a point.

    As I've said, I've not seen the game but I know the rules and how the game should be played. If the American did that then she was trying to cheat. You don't need to be Roy Keane shouting in a ref's face to try to influence the course of a game/
    Can you give proper examples then. You say picking a fight so I assumed it was relevant. And again every sport has this so then every one is "cheating" so its an even playing field. Therefore its all the same. But pointing out the rules is not cheating (its the opposite) and any ref who is influenced is a bad ref anyway and its not the players fault. I feel like Im repeating myself but whatever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by king mob View Post
    As Hod and myself have been saying, he's a fucking beast.
    Different guy.

    The 800m was David Rudisha. He's a fucking beast too though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by thehod View Post
    Different guy.

    The 800m was David Rudisha. He's a fucking beast too though.


    Jade Jones is going for a gold in the girls kicking contest right now.
    With that run tonight,he's basically repositioned the 800m from middle-distance to a sprint.Giants of the event like Coe and Rono always ran world class times with pacemakers.This was wonderful front running.Pity Bolt's double will mean it won't get much publicity
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