If you Love Spidey you MUST Read A vs X #9

[TheAltarOfMyEgo]

Exactly....I would say the same.

I bought Avengers comics Bendis era to see for this kind of spidey moment, it didnt happen

And I am suprise why some didnt like to have Spidey this moment to shine.

Superman and Batman....have so many books, are member of teams yet they are the forefront in all DC events.

How come Spidey cant do them same...His moment gave heart to the AVX which was lacking.

This. All the way.

[classicgmer]

Exactly....I would say the same.

I bought Avengers comics Bendis era to see for this kind of spidey moment, it didnt happen

And I am suprise why some didnt like to have Spidey this moment to shine.

Superman and Batman....have so many books, are member of teams yet they are the forefront in all DC events.

How come Spidey cant do them same...His moment gave heart to the AVX which was lacking.

Superman, Batman & Spider-man while all insanely popular do not have the same amount of in universe importance. Batman & Superman are well respected figures & pillars of DC's hero community while Spider-man isn't so much (not to the extent of Batman & Superman anyhow) which is why he doesn't get to hog the spotlight in alot of events...I mean I'm all for him getting moments like this here & there BUT to have it happen all the time really doesn't fit the characters positioning in terms of importance in Marvel's universe.

[oldschool]

Exactly....I would say the same.

I bought Avengers comics Bendis era to see for this kind of spidey moment, it didnt happen

And I am suprise why some didnt like to have Spidey this moment to shine.

Superman and Batman....have so many books, are member of teams yet they are the forefront in all DC events.

How come Spidey cant do them same...His moment gave heart to the AVX which was lacking.

Agreed on every count; the fact that Bendis was unable/unwilling (God knows why) to create even one moment like this in the combined 100+ issues of Avengers/New Avengers that he wrote with Spidey makes me wonder why exactly he ever put him on the team. I sometimes wonder if Marvel forced that decision upon him; even in the finale of Dark Reign, Spidey was a bit player in taking Norman Osborn down.

[Sunstorm]

Agreed on every count; the fact that Bendis was unable/unwilling (God knows why) to create even one moment like this in the combined 100+ issues of Avengers/New Avengers that he wrote with Spidey makes me wonder why exactly he ever put him on the team. I sometimes wonder if Marvel forced that decision upon him; even in the finale of Dark Reign, Spidey was a bit player in taking Norman Osborn down.

Especially when Peter decked Norman during Siege, that was just for old time's sake. However, it would have been more fitting if Spidey was the one who brought him in, due to their histroy. But I guess they wanted to show that Norman outgrew Spider-Man.

[oldschool]

Especially where Peter decked Norman during Siege, that was just for old time sake. However, it would have been more fitting if Spidey was the one who brought him in, due to their histroy. But I guess they wanted to show that Norman outgrew Spider-Man.

Well, that's fine and I get that Marvel wanted to make Norman an Avengers-level villain and not just rehash the Pete/Norman conflict yet again but, if Spidey did not have a big role in even that story, then it was clear that Bendis would never use Spidey for anything other than comic relief during his tenure. And, over the 8 years of Avengers stories he wrote with Spidey, that proved true.

[classicgmer]

Especially where Peter decked Norman during Siege, that was just for old time sake. However, it would have been more fitting if Spidey was the one who brought him in, due to their histroy. But I guess they wanted to show that Norman outgrew Spider-Man.

I love it when people say this Dark Reign was all about Norman Osborn VS the Marvel universe not Norman Osborn vs Spider-man which in recent years the Spider office had ran into the ground soo many times plenty of people were sick of & Spider fans really didn't care to see Norman anymore....Soooo fast forward to Norman's T-bolts, go through Dark Reign & get to Siege where we're at a point where Norman Osborn is the hottest thing in comics (thanks in large part to Warren Ellis & Bendis to a lesser extent) & now Spider-man fans are screaming about the Spidey vs Norman dynamic not getting enough face time



I'm sorry but at that point in time everyone was sick of Spidey vs Norman...Other people (Ellis/Bendis) found another interesting way to utilize Osborn & then & only then were Spidey fan-boys screaming it's not fair that the Spidey/Norman dynamic wasn't played up enough At that point the story wasn't Spidey vs Norman so why should he have been a major part of taking Norman down?


Aside from all that I think Spidey had one of the coolest moments in Dark Reign in New Avengers # 57

[samson3191]

Great issue all around. I've been enjoying AvX quite a bit, and this might be the best issue yet.

[oldschool]

Great issue all around. I've been enjoying AvX quite a bit, and this might be the best issue yet.

Very much agreed; I will also add that the current Avengers issue (with Rulk on the cover) is also quite good.....and perhaps one of the best portrayals of Rulk to date.

[The_Ronin]

Especially where Peter decked Norman during Siege, that was just for old time's sake. However, it would have been more fitting if Spidey was the one who brought him in, due to their histroy. But I guess they wanted to show that Norman outgrew Spider-Man.

And I really enjoyed Siege and him being a Marvel Universe level villain was great but holy shit how awkward is it to NOT have Spider-Man trying to get the Avengers back together to take this guy down.

You know that scene in Ends of the Earth where the Avengers are debating the merits of Doc Ock's plan and Spider-Man is like 'Trust me, hes bad news, we have to take him down' and they are all like "Okay, we got your back"

Yeah? That should of been Siege, Spider-Man in front of the scattered and divided Avengers, "He's a monster, he murdered my girlfriend in cold blood just to get to me. And now hes in charge of Shield, and a team of legitimate Avengers... I am taking this bastard down, who is with me?"

[TheAltarOfMyEgo]

And I really enjoyed Siege and him being a Marvel Universe level villain was great but holy shit how awkward is it to NOT have Spider-Man trying to get the Avengers back together to take this guy down.

You know that scene in Ends of the Earth where the Avengers are debating the merits of Doc Ock's plan and Spider-Man is like 'Trust me, hes bad news, we have to take him down' and they are all like "Okay, we got your back"

Yeah? That should of been Siege, Spider-Man in front of the scattered and divided Avengers, "He's a monster, he murdered my girlfriend in cold blood just to get to me. And now hes in charge of Shield, and a team of legitimate Avengers... I am taking this bastard down, who is with me?"

"Dark Reign" was a fairly good story arc, but it felt like it went on a bit long after a while. My biggest gripe with it was the same as yours: It made no sense for Spider-Man to be so complacent about Norman having so much control for as long as he did.

[ZeoVGM]

No Transonic in man.

However something does change. A MAJOR status quo change in the Marvel Universe in this issue. When you see the book you'll know what I mean.

Just in case if you think I"m for real the Mods can vouch for me. ;)

So uh, where was this exactly? Because it wasn't in the issue.

[Mister Mets]

So uh, where was this exactly? Because it wasn't in the issue.

The high priest of the Panther Clan annulled Storm and BP's marriage.

[Per Hiero]

Here's a Spider-Man Devotion on Avengers Vs. X-Men.

Round 9