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    Quote Originally Posted by swatkat View Post
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    I do think Strife is rather attached to Diana, which makes her a very interesting unknown element in Diana's battle against Hera. Of course, she's also completely untrustworthy, but that's why we love her.
    Quite so. I like this sort of amorality in supporting characters, because it gives so much for a protagonist (particularly one that is such a paragon as Diana) to play off of.

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    That was dope, I really enjoyed it man. Wonder Woman got her ass kicked but that's to be expected in Round 1.

    Dug "Oliveburn Medical Center" on the door to the doctor's office, Marston's girlfriend was named Olive Byrne.

    The design of Artemis was good, but with Demeter I was like, "here we go with another god that's weird just for the sake of weirdness" and it wasn't even anything particularly original. "Oh a tree-lady as the goddess of the harvest, that's typical."

    It sucked that Artemis took one of Diana's powers that's yet to be depicted post nu52 (unless it was in one of those Justice League issues I didn't get). The throwing of jewelry is her schtick, I guess the tiara is only useful as a hair band now? I'll watch to see how many people who said Wonder Woman's tiara is corny like Artemis' crescent necklace, that will undoubtedly be deemed acceptable suddenly though it's pretty much the same thing.

    The definitive answer to Wonder Woman's age was nice. That was probably meant to placate those of us wondering how she didn't know about the sex raids, I'm not buying it though.

    For a grade I'd give this issue a strong B. It moved along too fast and the giant pictures and full page spread weren't necessary. Still, I got to love that the puns were toned down and at least they didn't seem like such a big stretch in the dialogue. I even found myself feeling bad for Lennox though with Hermes I was "I get it, you don't feel good, shut up or do something about it".

    Zola finally made herself useful although she was as inept as her protector. Seriously, Wonder Woman can't keep out of trouble for $#*t!

    I bet the traitor will be Strife betraying her mother.
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    And again the solicit lied to us. Where is the traitor??? Oh, apart from the solicit itself.

    Diana got punched more than I thought she would, but that's fine. Great issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximum Impact View Post
    That was dope, I really enjoyed it man. Wonder Woman got her ass kicked but that's to be expected in Round 1.
    Wow--glad you liked it! I did too.

    Dug "Oliveburn Medical Center" on the door to the doctor's office, Marston's girlfriend was named Olive Byrne.
    That's it! I knew that that name should ring a bell, but somehow I couldn't place it. Thanks

    I agree that Stride will probably side with Wonder Woman, whom she seems to be falling in love with. But I think Hermes will probably be a traitor of sorts too. My guess is that Zeus gave Hermes a message to deliver once Zola's baby is born, and it will be a bad message for Wonder Woman and for Zeus' other children.

    By the way, what's up with Artemis calling Demeter "sister"? Wasn't Demeter always Artemis' aunt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximum Impact View Post
    The definitive answer to Wonder Woman's age was nice.
    Yeah, so...Steve, who is probably in his 30s, was hitting on an 18 year old according to Justice League?
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    Mmm.....Appolo is one tough Mister Falcon.
    Honestly, I wasn't expecting Diana to win this , and she actually put up a good fight. What surprizes me is how Lennox got completely destroyed. Even Hermes proved himself useless against the twins. Seriously, if after this, anyone is arguing that they steal Wonder Woman spotlight in fights, they're just lying.
    I wasn't expecting Hera to put a bounty on the kid's head (wanted, unborn child, dead or unalive). Now what really surprized me was the price she agreed to. That's totally not going to come back to bite her in the a... nope.
    Moon was cool as Hell, but I found Harvest's design to be a bit subpar. Wonder what will happen with these two, though.
    All in all.....good issue, good issue.
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    Great issue, really loved it. I love Apollo and Artemis’s bike, really fun with it rocketing off into the sky like that. Demeter looks damned weird! In a good way, but wow, I wasn’t expecting to see her or for her to look like that. I also like Artemis’ more glowy form with the antlers, very nice.

    I really hope Diana has a plan otherwise she’s going to get her arse kicked (again) next issue. Poor Lennox, he shall be missed. (Unless he’s only injured, in which case – get up you big Jessie and join the fight) . But it’s awesome that she just keeps getting up and doing her best to protect Zola. Guess Zola will go into labour next issue and we’ll find out what’s so damned special about this sprog (probably Zeus) and whether it’s been affected by her time in Hades. And I guess we'll see who will betray Diana as well... Why can't it be next month now?!

    Quote Originally Posted by slvn View Post
    By the way, what's up with Artemis calling Demeter "sister"? Wasn't Demeter always Artemis' aunt?
    Yeah, that kinda threw me. It’s not really a big deal, but I definitely had a “wha?” moment. Unless of course Artemis means “sister” in an Amazon sense and pretty much any woman is “sister” to her. Then it’s more than okay wih me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stu View Post
    Yeah, so...Steve, who is probably in his 30s, was hitting on an 18 year old according to Justice League?
    He was probably in his twenties when the first JL arc took place, but even if he wasn’t, then so what? Older men are hot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandomFalls View Post
    He was probably in his twenties when the first JL arc took place, but even if he wasn’t, then so what? Older men are hot.
    Not to mention that older men hit on younger women all. the. time. And vice versa.

    And yes, older guys are HOT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sberg1 View Post
    Not to mention that older men hit on younger women all. the. time. And vice versa.

    And yes, older guys are HOT.
    Plus, Steve didn't actually hit on her in the first arc, did he? I know that in the text piece Waller needles him about being interested in Diana romantically, but I don't remember any indication that he acted on that interest, even assuming that Waller was right. Unless I'm forgetting something, he may not have hit on Diana until she was 21 or 22.

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    Great issue, and gorgeous art. Finally the story kicked into action and we're getting somewhere. I also loved the design for Olympus and the throne. Artemis was cool too (the antlers are a reference to deers being her iconic animal), but i didnt like Demeter's design that much. What was up with her face, half of it was normal and the other half was wrinkled. And she had a skrull jaw. Another thing i didnt like is that the art was a bit... stiff and wooden during the action scenes. Like when WW fights Apollo hand to hand. But that's a small nitpick.

    And finally, WW is only 23? I want a young WW with much to learn, but not her being almost a decade younger than SM and BM.

    Anyway, this was one of the best issues so far and the final page was freaking amazing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Hurt View Post
    And finally, WW is only 23? I want a young WW with much to learn, but not her being almost a decade younger than SM and BM.
    Just curious, but why does that matter exactly? I haven't really thought whether it's a pro or con in either direction quite yet. What are your thoughts on it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Hurt View Post

    And finally, WW is only 23? I want a young WW with much to learn, but not her being almost a decade younger than SM and BM.
    Isn't Superman 27? I'm sure Grant Morrison said that Clark was 22 in Action Comics. Haven't got a clue about Batman though, nor do I really care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Hurt View Post
    Great issue, and gorgeous art. Finally the story kicked into action and we're getting somewhere. I also loved the design for Olympus and the throne. Artemis was cool too (the antlers are a reference to deers being her iconic animal), but i didnt like Demeter's design that much. What was up with her face, half of it was normal and the other half was wrinkled. And she had a skrull jaw. Another thing i didnt like is that the art was a bit... stiff and wooden during the action scenes. Like when WW fights Apollo hand to hand. But that's a small nitpick.

    And finally, WW is only 23? I want a young WW with much to learn, but not her being almost a decade younger than SM and BM.

    Anyway, this was one of the best issues so far and the final page was freaking amazing!
    I'm not all too familiar with Chiang outside of the Wonder Woman book, but maybe his artistic skills are a bit limited with battle scenes(?) This is the first time wee see her fighting a real fight (I'm not counting vs Aleka) with punches, etc... Close call with Apollo's god beam!!! It's a shame to see Lennox go down, he got the full brunt of it. I'm a little dissapointed to see the gods fighting like superheroes, but at least Azzarello had the good sense to have them win the "fight" unquestionnably. There was no other way out of this.

    I don't know what Wonder Woman thinks she's doing by showing up in Olympus bluffing with threats. I don't think there was a contingency plan for THIS, and she sure as hell took a beating back on Earth. They all did. She'd better come out with something a little more useful than that little lasso of hers in the presence of Hera, and Apollo. Everyone keeps mentioning how Strife is taking a lking to Wonder Woman, but if she threatens dear old Mummsy I think that's where Strife will draw the line and pick a side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Hurt View Post
    Great issue, and gorgeous art. Finally the story kicked into action and we're getting somewhere. I also loved the design for Olympus and the throne. Artemis was cool too (the antlers are a reference to deers being her iconic animal), but i didnt like Demeter's design that much. What was up with her face, half of it was normal and the other half was wrinkled. And she had a skrull jaw. Another thing i didnt like is that the art was a bit... stiff and wooden during the action scenes. Like when WW fights Apollo hand to hand. But that's a small nitpick.

    And finally, WW is only 23? I want a young WW with much to learn, but not her being almost a decade younger than SM and BM.

    Anyway, this was one of the best issues so far and the final page was freaking amazing!
    Actually Superman is 26 in Superman since Grant Morrison said In Action Comics Superman is 21. On to Batman He is about 29 going on 30 Since he had Damian When he was Young and In training After Batman Year One.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gwangung View Post
    Quite so. I like this sort of amorality in supporting characters, because it gives so much for a protagonist (particularly one that is such a paragon as Diana) to play off of.
    Strife is a character with so much potential! Her genuine unpredictability is what makes her fun to have around, especially around our always steadfast Diana. All the gods are 'amoral' in the human sense of the term, because their morality is so different from ours, but Strife makes it fun being fond of Diana and an obstacle at the same time.

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