Yay for us in Australian getting the movie early. We rock like that (well not normally).
So I just saw it and here's what I thought:
WARNING: POSSIBLE SPOILERS!!!!!
-Bane: He kicks ass, he breaks backs over his knee but he's actually a lot more entertaining that he appeared to be in the trailers. Considering his comic version is pretty damn serious, it was a great surprise to see he can actually be a lot of fun.
-Catwoman: Add her to the list of characters Nolan has rescued. She's fun, flirty and is really good in a fight. Really loved how she was never actually given the name Catwoman in the film.
-Acknowedging the comic history, sometimes to our downfall: Bane's origin is pretty similar to his comic counterpart. Or is it though? Nolan presents us with what the comic fan will eat up as lore and then gleefully turns it on it's head.
-Tahlia: We all KNEW it was her. Right from the very start. They denied it but it was always obvious. But considering Morrison has been giving the character far more of a work out of late, it's nice that she further gets a profile boost here.
-Joesph Gordon Levitt: What can be said? He's awesome. Practically steals the movie. It's just a shame they didn't break convention and have the film be told entirely from his point of view.
-Crane: Dr Crane doesn't have to be there, but he is and that's awesome. Ironic he's like the one criminal in the franchise who got away clean.
-Ending: The ending isn't perfect. Whether or not it's a cop out or not will no doubt be debated for a while but at least it ends in a rather fitting manner.
-Scale: Nolan makes his movies feel big but more importantly feel real. Some amazing action sequences here that all feel like lives are really at risk.
-Robin type character: Christian Bale and Christopher Nolan may openly dislike Robin as a kid in yellow but they understand at least why Batman needs an underling or at least someone to inspire and pass the torch too.
-Full circle: The films ties nicely back with Batman Begins, making the whole series feel nice and complete.
NOT SO GOOD:
-Where is Alfred?: he leaves in act one, seems like he'll make a return and then...doesn't really...hmmm
-Miranda Tate: Come on, we ALL KNEW WHO SHE WAS! Sadly I have a feeling if you don't have a grasp of who her character is you'll be largely confused by this revelation.
-What happened to Bane?: Considering he makes such a good impression he kind of ends pretty fast.
-Robin: Seriously? That's his name? Why not have his real name be Grayson or just Dick? That way it wouldn't feel so obvious (Though i guess they wanted to make it clear to all the non fans)
-It happened what now?: The film requires multiple leaps of logic. Dark Knight required this too but this one expects us to believe Gotham could descend into outright insanity relatively fast. Also how to Bane take Bruce to some foreign prison and then get back so fast? And how did Bruce get into locked down Gotham without any issue?
-Ending: It got ssssssoooo close to being pefect. Just show Blake as batman, let him take on that kid as his sidekick/protege. Oh well, one can dream.
I think it's because he's an*amalgamation of all the robins.-Robin: Seriously? That's his name? Why not have his real name be Grayson or just Dick? That way it wouldn't feel so obvious (Though i guess they wanted to make it clear to all the non fans)
He's a cop like Dick Grayson.
He deduced batman's identity like Tim Drake.
He was a street orphan like Jason Todd.
Was the Joker mentioned? What happened to Jim Gordon?
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Just got back from the movie.
It's certainly a good film, no question. But it is my least favorite of the Nolan trilogy and the only one that I was a bit disappointed after it was over.
I think the movie takes things too far and moves out of the realm of what a Batman movie should feel like. The first two movies were much darker and street level and basically focused around crime and criminals. This movie has a much more terrorism type slant, and the threats are so far beyond crime that it just feels like the nature of the movie itself is different. It's too epic and the stakes are too high, it sort of loses the street level appeal of Batman to me.
I understand that Nolan wanted to adapt the Knightfall story, but having Bruce broken and coming back, and the ending, it felt a little too overblown and difficult to believe. I know it's a superhero movie and a fictional character, but I think Batman Begins and The Dark Knight ultimately felt like "this could happen" movies, and TDKR sort of crosses that imaginary line into where it's hard to accept the illusion.
All the actors were fantastic and Hathaway and Hardy in particular were phenomenal. I wish Catwoman had WAY more screen time as I thought her character was really interesting and handled perfectly. Bane was absolutely terrifying and evil and again handled perfectly.
I'll see it again, maybe my expectations were too high or something, but it feels like the later seasons of 24. 24 was never that realistic to begin with, but I felt like in the earlier seasons you could at least sort of play along with it, whereas at some point it crossed a line and got too epic for its own good, and the nature of the show itself changed, and that's what I think happened here.
I watched the first two Nolan movies a couple weeks ago and this is what I'd rate them all, more on personal satisfaction than critical quality:
Batman Begins - 10/10
The Dark Knight - 12/10
The Dark Knight Rises - 8/10
Well see i'm so happy to hear that. Batman isn't a realistic character, his films shouldn't portray him and his world as realistic. The "what if Batman was realistic and set in our world" is missing the point of the character.
Whilst that is true, Batman is just fundamentally not a realistic character.
It's not realistic for a guy to be a super genius is dozens of different fields, a master martial artist of hundreds of different disciplines, a Sherlock Holmes esque detective, a Houdini esque escape artist, an Olympic level athlete in every single area. And on top of that, a billionaire businessman and sociolite.
Those things are defining traits of Batman in any interpretation. People seem to think Batman is a realistic superhero because he's a normal human who uses his intelligence and tech. No, he isn't a normal human. It's not normal for a human to be that good in so many different fields.
I think that the issue with the third film is that it felt like a super-hero film while the first two were more so about a vigilante in a hyper-realistic setting that dealt with a lot of social issues in a more nuissanced manner. The political overtones were just shoved down our throat in this one while being set in what felt like the most successful Marvel Studios film.
But even with this in mind I still loved Dark Knight Rises, I think they did a stand up job with No Man's Land and it featured what I would consider Nolan's strongest female character to date (it should be mentioned that JGL and the Hath totally stole the show, I wish they had more screen time than they already did). As a stand alone film, Dark Knight Rises is a good movie but as the end to the Nolan Trilogy it seemed out of place.
I just got back and am tired so I'll give some initial impressions before passing out.
The movie was a freakin' mess. It wasn't paced well at all. A lot of really big moments didn't get fleshed out like they should have and were just rushed through. TDK did that really well.
Other than that I enjoyed it and appreciate the ending they came up with.
Just so it's clear, Blake's real first name is Robin, but he doesn't become Robin the character or anything like that. Bruce fakes his and Batman's deaths and gives Blake access to the cave so that he can continue on being Batman.
"John Stewart. LAME! ...this guy having a ring is like giving the batmobile to a blind old woman with her left leg in a cast."
"Pym biting Blobs head off seems like something that would have happened when i was ten years old and playing with action figures."
"i always assumed that [the blob] had the same powers as his 616 counterpart because, if simply being a huge fat guy was enough to be considered a mutant then there sure are a lot of mutants in 'real life'. "