AvX #8 *Spoilers*

[Zoks]

yelled at steve rogers, stalled namor, and stayed behind in wakanda to face the phoenix (4?) while the rest of the avengers ran away to kun lun.

He wants to hand Cyclops the bill for all of Namor's destruction. I can see Cyclops and Colossus staying behind to clean up Wakanda.

[chariset]

The Illuminati really shouldn't use the Infinity Gems, but I have a terrible feeling they might since the Gems are pretty much the only reason they still exist as a group.

[ariwl1]

What would the consequence of using the Infinity Gems be? Aside from random plot device I mean.

[AcesX1X]

What would the consequence of using the Infinity Gems be? Aside from random plot device I mean.

the gems make you crazy. it's very dangerous business.

[chariset]

What would the consequence of using the Infinity Gems be? Aside from random plot device I mean.

Well, it would break the Illuminati's promise to themselves that they would never use them. It would reveal their existence to the world (the superhero community at large thinks the Infinity Gauntlet was destroyed and the Illuminati disbanded). And it would likely corrupt whoever used it, since to hold the full Gauntlet is basically to be in charge of everything.

But mainly it would make the plot too easy if one of them could simply wish the Phoenix away and put everything back to the way it was, so either they don't use it or they try but something goes wrong

[Lascoden]

What would the consequence of using the Infinity Gems be? Aside from random plot device I mean.

The IG is ridiculously hard to use. There was an alternate Reed Richards who killed all life in his universe when he lost focus. So, if you're not careful, a stray thought could end everything forever.

[chariset]

That said, Professor X has the Mind Gem hidden somewhere, and I'm sure he's tempted to break it out now that he feels responsible to restrain the Phoenix [Numeral]

[ariwl1]

But mainly it would make the plot too easy if one of them could simply wish the Phoenix away and put everything back to the way it was, so either they don't use it or they try but something goes wrong

With that being said I'm inclined to think the gems won't be used as with four issues left I don't think we have time for another out of control ultimate power.

But I think you also mentioned that without the gems the Illuminati don't serve much other purpose. Is it possible to use the gems separately with less dangerous results?

[Lascoden]

But mainly it would make the plot too easy if one of them could simply wish the Phoenix away and put everything back to the way it was, so either they don't use it or they try but something goes wrong

Considering it's the Illuminati, most likely the latter.

[Lascoden]

With that being said I'm inclined to think the gems won't be used as with four issues left I don't think we have time for another out of control ultimate power.

But I think you also mentioned that without the gems the Illuminati don't serve much other purpose. Is it possible to use the gems separately with less dangerous results?

Yes, but they're nowhere near as powerful. It would help, but not by enough, I would think. And, each has their own danger. The Soul Gem, for example, is vampiric, and eats souls.

[jsf]

Yes, but they're nowhere near as powerful. It would help, but not by enough, I would think. And, each has their own danger. The Soul Gem, for example, is vampiric, and eats souls.

The Infinity Gauntlet gives the wearer absolute control over the whole of reality. It'd be more than sufficient to handle the PF I would think.

That said, I think you're right -- the individual use of the gems would probably fall somewhat short of being able to deal with the PF effectively.

[chariset]

I'm trying to think who has which...

Namor - Power (Red)
Captain America -Time (Orange)
Professor X - Mind (Blue)
Doctor Strange - Soul (Green)
Iron Man - Space (Purple)
Reed Richards - Reality (Yellow)

[ariwl1]

I'm trying to think who has which...

Namor - Power (Red)

I guess Namor is pretty honorable if he never broke the promise to not use the thing while he was a Phoenix.

[chariset]

I guess Namor is pretty honorable if he never broke the promise to not use the thing while he was a Phoenix.

He might break it now that he isn't.

I wish Bendis would disband the Illuminati. They don't serve any plot purpose except as guardians of the Infinity Gems. Even when they were a group, they weren't all that effective in preventing problems before they began.

[AcesX1X]

I guess Namor is pretty honorable if he never broke the promise to not use the thing while he was a Phoenix.

yes, ironically, namor was one of the most level-headed out of the illuminati meetings. i don't know how he ended up as conscience of the team, but there you go. i think he also had the time gem originally, but he got the power gem after red hood was defeated.