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    Quote Originally Posted by stk View Post
    Pushing current continuity has never seemed to be any kind of priority for them at all in making these movies (going all the way back to their first animated series, which tended to be BETTER than the current continuities of the time). They just do whatever stories appeal to them and that they think they can sell to a wide mainstream audience.

    Which makes sense, because the current continuity will be gone at some point, too, just like any past continuity.
    It would be interesting to see that, if/when they do adapt something from the New 52 continuity, if they use the New 52 costume designs, or go with something resembling the classic costumes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Namtab View Post
    It would be interesting to see that, if/when they do adapt something from the New 52 continuity, if they use the New 52 costume designs, or go with something resembling the classic costumes.
    Generally speaking, they seem to try to be as close to the original styles and look of the characters as possible, so I think new 52 suits are pretty much a given.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Auguste Dupin View Post
    On the other hand, all they have to do is cut the fact the Little Man is a devil like creature from the 5th dimension and it would work perfectly as a self contained 6 issues story. The fact he was wasn't that important in the Collector arc.
    With that said, your first argument is perfectly sound.
    But, there's still a lot we don't know about that version of Brainiac. Where he came from, how he got the list of planets that were going to be destroyed, why he was compelled to save parts of their culture. With the Johns version, we know pretty much everything about him and there's more than just that storyline to draw from. Like with Superman Vs. The Elite and Batman: Under The Red Hood, they can take bits and pieces from other Brainiac stories and make a fuller character.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stk View Post
    Cartoony style? The style on nearly every project has been different.
    Different. But still cartoony. I'm talking about a more "realistic" style, a la FOX's X-Men TV series. The closest we got was the All-Star Superman DDVD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 666MasterOfPuppets View Post
    Different. But still cartoony. I'm talking about a more "realistic" style, a la FOX's X-Men TV series. The closest we got was the All-Star Superman DDVD.
    X-Men wasn't Cartoony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexrules View Post
    X-Men wasn't Cartoony.
    Exactly. Why can't DC make a DDVD with a similar style?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 666MasterOfPuppets View Post
    Exactly. Why can't DC make a DDVD with a similar style?
    It was cartoony though. Compared to Batman the Animated Series which was on at the same time it was very cartoony. If you looking for more of a realistic style I would have chosen a Max Fleisher Superman style over X-Men anyday. Hell Ruby/Spears Superman had a much better animated style then X-Men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brainiac 3.5 View Post
    But, there's still a lot we don't know about that version of Brainiac. Where he came from, how he got the list of planets that were going to be destroyed, why he was compelled to save parts of their culture. With the Johns version, we know pretty much everything about him and there's more than just that storyline to draw from. Like with Superman Vs. The Elite and Batman: Under The Red Hood, they can take bits and pieces from other Brainiac stories and make a fuller character.
    Nothing prevent them from changing stuff. We don't need to know he's from Colu (I mean, appart from hardcore fans, you think the casual viewer cares that Brainiac comes from a planet he never heard about?), all they need to change is the motivation, and that's easy: Brainiac steals samples from other planets before destroying them, because information is more valuable when it's rare (just like the Brainiac from Johns or from the cartoon), and the "list of doomed world" is a list of worlds he is destroying himself to artificially increase their value. I mean, they changed the way Jason came back from the dead, they changed more than half of the Doomsday storyline, they changed how Superman dealt with Kandor in All Star and the ending.
    I am just not interested in the Johns Brainiac arc as a DTV: it was nothing more than one big fight started by Superman (who suddenly went after Brainiac for....some reason), without much of a value without the New Krypton stuff that is probably going to be not even included (at best, he will get Kandor back).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Auguste Dupin View Post
    Nothing prevent them from changing stuff. We don't need to know he's from Colu (I mean, appart from hardcore fans, you think the casual viewer cares that Brainiac comes from a planet he never heard about?), all they need to change is the motivation, and that's easy: Brainiac steals samples from other planets before destroying them, because information is more valuable when it's rare (just like the Brainiac from Johns or from the cartoon), and the "list of doomed world" is a list of worlds he is destroying himself to artificially increase their value. I mean, they changed the way Jason came back from the dead, they changed more than half of the Doomsday storyline, they changed how Superman dealt with Kandor in All Star and the ending.
    I am just not interested in the Johns Brainiac arc as a DTV: it was nothing more than one big fight started by Superman (who suddenly went after Brainiac for....some reason), without much of a value without the New Krypton stuff that is probably going to be not even included (at best, he will get Kandor back).
    It was a homage to Christopher Reeve which was pretty much the whole Johns run was all about. It was a what if the Superman movies had continued as seen through the eyes of the DC Universe.

    I hope that they stay as close to Franks art as they can to the point of giving to the Reeve foundation if need be to get his likeness as close as they can.
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    Must add the one I want to see made the most is The Death of Superman from the 50's.

    This would be a amazing story done in the modern world but with Curt Swan's Drawing Style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexrules View Post
    It was a homage to Christopher Reeve which was pretty much the whole Johns run was all about. It was a what if the Superman movies had continued as seen through the eyes of the DC Universe.

    I hope that they stay as close to Franks art as they can to the point of giving to the Reeve foundation if need be to get his likeness as close as they can.
    By this point the only thing that felt even remotely close to the Donner movies was Superman's face.
    All I'm saying is, if they have to adapt a Johns story , I would be much more interested in Last Son. It had a much bigger emotionnal impact, and the action part was better.

    As for your Death of the Superman thing, well....haven't read it, but I'm a bit weary of having to watch Superman die in my DTVs. How about the Lex-Or story (come on, it has Lex and Superman in a boxing match, how more awesome can you get?), or "Must There be A Superman"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mat001 View Post
    Correct. The Superman, Batman and JLA films are the only ones that sell well. We only got a second GL centric film because of the film and since it bombed, there won't be a third film for a while. And the Showcase feature sold poorly, which doesn't help matters.
    Thing is, they haven't actually DONE anything else other than Superman, Batman, and the JLA---except for the GL things and WW. So how do they know nothing else will sell? And does every Superman or Batman DVD sell really well?

    I'd be interested to see the sales figures on each DVD---just to see what weight they're putting on sales.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Auguste Dupin View Post
    By this point the only thing that felt even remotely close to the Donner movies was Superman's face.
    All I'm saying is, if they have to adapt a Johns story , I would be much more interested in Last Son. It had a much bigger emotionnal impact, and the action part was better.

    As for your Death of the Superman thing, well....haven't read it, but I'm a bit weary of having to watch Superman die in my DTVs. How about the Lex-Or story (come on, it has Lex and Superman in a boxing match, how more awesome can you get?), or "Must There be A Superman"?
    Lexor would be great but have it end with Lex finding the battle suit and then his hatred of Superman leading to the destruction of Lexor. One of my favorite stories of all time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexrules View Post
    Lexor would be great but have it end with Lex finding the battle suit and then his hatred of Superman leading to the destruction of Lexor. One of my favorite stories of all time.
    Yeah, the thing was 20 pages long, they can expand it with later stories all they want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Auguste Dupin View Post

    As for your Death of the Superman thing, well....haven't read it, but I'm a bit weary of having to watch Superman die in my DTVs. How about the Lex-Or story (come on, it has Lex and Superman in a boxing match, how more awesome can you get?), or "Must There be A Superman"?
    Here man, you're killing me with the fact you never read The Death of Superman..

    http://supermanthrutheages.com/tales2/death/1/

    It's all there for you to enjoy. :)

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