Spider-Man is more popular than Batman: Fact!

[Lancerman]

-Ok so first you compare a set of movies from two different eras when movie prices and cinema habits where different
-then you specifically omit the closest Batman movie that could be a contemporary of the Spiderman movies you are trying to praise (TDK came out a year after Spidey 3)
-you also call it an anomaly when the upcoming Batman movie is on pace just based on pre bought tickets alone to obliterate every single one of the Spiderman movies as well
-you don't mention that Batman Begins came off the heels of a movie that was considered a critical disaster
-you also only compare the movies when many other media to view the character exist
-you ignore that Batman sells more and supports more comics than Spiderman
-you ignore that Batman has a more popular better selling video game series
-you ignore that Batman has been in more successful tv shows that have a greater pop culture influence than Spiderman


So in essence you took one small piece of the puzzle that supported your claim twisted it and even ommited parts that didn't help you to support your statement and then expect us to take it at face value.

[Deep_Sleeper]

-Ok so first you compare a set of movies from two different eras when movie prices and cinema habits where different
-then you specifically omit the closest Batman movie that could be a contemporary of the Spiderman movies you are trying to praise (TDK came out a year after Spidey 3)
-you also call it an anomaly when the upcoming Batman movie is on pace just based on pre bought tickets alone to obliterate every single one of the Spiderman movies as well
-you don't mention that Batman Begins came off the heels of a movie that was considered a critical disaster
-you also only compare the movies when many other media to view the character exist
-you ignore that Batman sells more and supports more comics than Spiderman
-you ignore that Batman has a more popular better selling video game series
-you ignore that Batman has been in more successful tv shows that have a greater pop culture influence than Spiderman


So in essence you took one small piece of the puzzle that supported your claim twisted it and even ommited parts that didn't help you to support your statement and then expect us to take it at face value.

Do you really think that the Dark Knight made a 200% increase in box office over Batman Begins because it was another Batman movie? How come that much money didn't come into Batman Begins? If Batman is as popular as he is, then why didn't the first Batman movie make as much money domestically as well as overseas?

I also don't mention Batman Begins comes off the heel of a disaster because people don't have that long of a memory when it comes to their entertainment. If that were the case, people wouldn't ever watch another George Clooney movie (because he was the face that ruined Batman, as you say) or the first Batman movie (which had a completely different tone than one of those popular Batman shows that you cited).

Spider-Man, on the other hand, has consistently made big box office, regardless of the quality of the movies. Spider-Man 3 is an awful movie. Not Batman and Robin bad, but bad nonetheless. Amazing Spider-Man is already close to Batman Begins and should surpass it within a week's time.

I realize that the Direct Market sales of Batman books is a good indicator of comic sales at comic book stores, but that is not a guage of how many comics Spider-Man actually sells. As far as how many comics Spider-Man can support...there was a time when Spider-Man had just as many books as Batman. Right now, Spider-Man has one book coming out twice maybe 3 times a month. And that's not after a big event, either.

Batman has a better selling video game franchise? I guess you're right about that. None of Spider-Man's games have had as close to the kind of draw that Arkham Asylum or Arkham City has had.

[Lancerman]

1. It was a different time. Superhero movies weren't nearly as viable and accepted by the mainstream as they were when Spiderman movies started rolling out.
2. Batman and Robin is often cited as one of the worst films of all time. So yeah people remembered that. And it effectively forced a reboot. Alot of actors coming out of it took years to get their careers back on track. Clooney just happens to be a very good Oscar calibre actor and people recognize that he got stuck with a shitty movie.
3. Spiderman 3 made most of its money during its first weekend and first couple of weeks in theaters before it was received poorly. It was coming off a very critically successful film and had alot of hype. Notice how in part the bad reaction forced a reboot.


And again movies aren't everything.

[Lord Bravery]

Spider-Man 3 made a lot of money because it was the sequel to the much loved Spider-Man 2. The good will that carried forward was immense.

Batman Begins was following on from Batman and Robin, it had no good will carrying over. But when people did see Begins they liked it, that's why TDK was bigger. The good will from Begins carried over. I don't think TDK would have made as much as it did without the Joker, or the circumstances surrounding Heath Ledger, but I guarantee it would have made a lot more than Batman Begins regardless.

[regnak]

I think Spider Man WAS more popular than Batman and may be again someday but isn't right now.

[Basara]

Has has this thread survived this long? I thought trolling threads were frowned on here.

[Lex Von Doom]

Do you really think that the Dark Knight made a 200% increase in box office over Batman Begins because it was another Batman movie? How come that much money didn't come into Batman Begins? If Batman is as popular as he is, then why didn't the first Batman movie make as much money domestically as well as overseas?

I also don't mention Batman Begins comes off the heel of a disaster because people don't have that long of a memory when it comes to their entertainment. If that were the case, people wouldn't ever watch another George Clooney movie (because he was the face that ruined Batman, as you say) or the first Batman movie (which had a completely different tone than one of those popular Batman shows that you cited).

Spider-Man, on the other hand, has consistently made big box office, regardless of the quality of the movies. Spider-Man 3 is an awful movie. Not Batman and Robin bad, but bad nonetheless. Amazing Spider-Man is already close to Batman Begins and should surpass it within a week's time.

I realize that the Direct Market sales of Batman books is a good indicator of comic sales at comic book stores, but that is not a guage of how many comics Spider-Man actually sells. As far as how many comics Spider-Man can support...there was a time when Spider-Man had just as many books as Batman. Right now, Spider-Man has one book coming out twice maybe 3 times a month. And that's not after a big event, either.

Batman has a better selling video game franchise? I guess you're right about that. None of Spider-Man's games have had as close to the kind of draw that Arkham Asylum or Arkham City has had.

Can you answer me this, is Thor more popular than Wolverine since his movie made more? I mean surely Thor is more popular if more people wanted to see his movie right? Is Iron Man more popular than Superman? I'd argue yes slightly but I honestly think only the RDJ version of him is really popular others aren't. You seem to think that's the only thing that matters when it comes to popularity, it's not. And like Lancerman said Batman has had a bigger impact on pop culture than Spider-Man, the 60's Adam West series, Burton's films and Nolan's movies are all more iconic than anything Spider-Man has ever done Batman: The Animated Series is more iconic than Spider-Man: The Animated Series and the Arkham City games are more popular than any game Spider-Man has ever had.

But at the end of the day popularity doesn't really matter, if it did Justin Bieber is the greatest musician on Earth and the Twilight films deserve Oscars. And I highly doubt you know people who know who Spider-Man is but never heard of Batman, as far as most famous superheroes go Superman is the most famous followed by Batman and then Spider-Man.

[Legato]

Has has this thread survived this long? I thought trolling threads were frowned on here.

For some reason the mods here are overlooking it

[Arthur72]

FACT: Wolverine beats them both hands down!