AvX #8 *Preview*

[Monty_Cristo]

That is true Namor is standing with Cyke and one at the top take the blame.

Namor is and has always been his own leader. Captain America knows this from experience.

[gregyo]

Black Panther needs to be calling the shots for the Avengers, not Cap. I don't know whats going on with Cap, but innocent people are being attacked and the only thing he can think to do is say "I told you so." He needs perspective.

[USERNAME TAKEN]

for this namors need to die like badly.

he doesn't know, for all he knows this is was ordered by cyclops, you can't really blame him.

I think Captain America is speaking in the context of the Phoenix 5's "save the world" moves.

For all he knows, it was Scott Summers that ordered this.

[Starfish]

Cap is the one saying "I know Namor. I'll try to talk him down." I don't think he believes at first that Namor is anything but a weapon Cyclops is pointing at him. But he's bound to understand very soon that Namor's doing this because HE wants to.

Still, how does this square with the rescue mission he's purportedly on? For all Namor knows, Transonic has drowned by now.

I'm starting to doubt he ever intended to rescue anyone. Laurie getting captured only served as his excuse to finally do what he wanted in the first place: defying Cyclops and do things his way.

[Exo]

Damn it, Namor. You done fucked up now (unsurprisingly)...

[Lascoden]

I was counting that as teleportation. I could be wrong, but I read "Siege Courageous" as just what they're calling that use of the Phoenix Force.

Going by UXM 15, it seems to be a physical object that they walk through. I guess it's supposed to be like the Siege Perilous.

[Lascoden]

I will never forgive ou for the image of cap in emma's outfit.

Cyke carrying a shield is weird. I guess it is all about symbols but a pf using a shield is odd.

He could be the "Red White and Blue Queen".

[celticguy]

Namor is and has always been his own leader. Captain America knows this from experience.

Namor followed orders from Cap in the past so it is not a stretch to think he is not gone off on his own now. And even if he has he represents Cyke side in the fight the same way when Falcon 's team went to JGS and screwed up that goes back to Cap to a degree. Sometime it sucks to be in charge.

[Hariel0079]

Pretty much this issue the Avengers that are in Wakanda are gonna get rounded up. and in the tie-ins it'll be Cyke vs Capt. America and Cyke interrogating/torturing

[Sighphi]

Newsarama put up a first look on the upcoming AvX #8: http://www.newsarama.com/php/multime....php?aid=46875

Is it just me, or does each issue get more and more variant covers?

You need all those variant covers to get stores to keep those order numbers up to make it seem like the series was a hit.
If they werent there people would just be laughing that normal DC books are beating a Marvel event.

[celticguy]

Black Panther needs to be calling the shots for the Avengers, not Cap. I don't know whats going on with Cap, but innocent people are being attacked and the only thing he can think to do is say "I told you so." He needs perspective.

He at least notes the innocents but yeah he needs to narrow his focus for the moment.

[Lascoden]

for this namors need to die like badly.

he doesn't know, for all he knows this is was ordered by cyclops, you can't really blame him.

Just seems like he's jumping to conclusions. Namor is leading an army of Atlanteans, not mutants. He's attacking the whole city, not just the Avengers. He's obviously in "King of Atlantis" mode, not "X-men" mode. And nobody commands Atlantis but Namor. Cap should know all this, since he's known Namor longer then anybody else.

[USERNAME TAKEN]

You need all those variant covers to get stores to keep those order numbers up to make it seem like the series was a hit.
If they werent there people would just be laughing that normal DC books are beating a Marvel event.

All of DCs top selling titles have 1:25, 1:50 variant cover ratio.

Just saying.

[chariset]

Gallows humor, maybe?

"Heh... we're so screwed; Iron Man's run off; our quick escape to K'un-Lun's been closed... but at least I was right!"

[Lascoden]

Namor followed orders from Cap in the past so it is not a stretch to think he is not gone off on his own now. And even if he has he represents Cyke side in the fight the same way when Falcon 's team went to JGS and screwed up that goes back to Cap to a degree. Sometime it sucks to be in charge.

This is pretty similar to how Logan wanted to kill Hope, which didn't represent Cap's idea. Namor wants to go to war, which isn't Scott's idea. And Logan was (arguably) higher in the chain of command in this op then Namor is.