Frieza & his Army (DBZ) vs Acme Acres (Tiny Toons)

[Syrile Demonthyst]

This thread is like the biggest no-no I can imagine.. Both DBZ and Toons..
But I have to ask... Why would it be considered consistent power when a Toon can swallow the Universe, for example, but yet, in the same episode (probably not that one but similar things happen) be damaged by a shotgun to the face?

Toons have the power of the story. Honestly they are the embodiment of PIS.
But counting their high-end, one-of feats, they are pretty stupidly strong.
I am pretty sure though that Toons definitely do not have consistent power on the level of their top-end feats simply because the rarity of the feats compared to how commonly they are hurt by simple things such as falling in a hole, or their failure to defeat a dude with a shotgun.

And no, I do not feel like a fun-sucker. That happens the moment that Toons are seriously argued in a Rumble. :)

[The Drunkard Kid]

Even taking the Rule of Funny into account, Abridged Frieza should stomp because he can make murder hilarious.

[Nik Hasta]

Oh good.

A Looney Toons thread.

Greeeeeaaat. ¬_¬

But what's this? Actual feats? Let's analyse this then.

Planet gets more damage than anything short of Freeza's Ultimate move. Plucky walks it off, and the audience isn't even phased.

Well, looking at the context, Plucky was way deep underground and we don't actually see the anvil hit him. Guy is under tons of rock when a big anvil lands on it and cracks it, we see no impact so it's not that clear cut.

Elmyra runs intercontinetal distances underwater, in under 5 seconds. THEN She litterally drags all of Africa, Europe and Asia back to form Pangea. That's more of a raw strength feat than anyone in the DBZ verse showed.

Agreed, that's a heck of a feat. Not much to comment on there. No indication of reactions to match that speed though I will note and Elmyra is largely characterised by her inability to notice shit around her so I'd be iffy on giving her massively multi mach reflex speed.

Elmyra sucks the Universe down a hole.Then she walks out just fine with a sea monkey.

Not so much a durability feat, more indicative of teleportation than anything. We see the entire Universe sucked in and then Elmyra walks on into the space where it was. We don't see how she escaped or whether the transition into the hole itself was damaging at all. So I'd personally rank that as a teleportation feat than raw durability.

The Martian Machine sucks in it's universe, then the Animators and THIER universe, smashes them into a building Block. Plucky and the Martian girl are fine. Plucky's even sarcastic about it. In English he says "Does anyone want to buy a slightly-used universe?"

The machine is the unknown quantity here. It's a powerful machine, obviously. Plucky and the Martian Girl are using the machine and thereby might be protected by it. Given how Plucky was previously effected by continent cracking forces in the feat above - visibly dazed and bruised - I would suspect that the machine is either keeping them safe or this counts as massive SMvsFL.

Yes, I am applying rationality and consistency to Looney Toons. I hate all of you.

Anyhow, so using these feats...

With prep, the Toons get the block machine to destroy the Universe for a kind of pyrrhic victory.

Without prep, so far only Elmyra has shown the strength and speed to be a threat to Frieza and his army and she's not exactly combat... oriented. Plucky will be kind of hard to hurt but he's got zero in the way of offensive game to actually do anything. So, Frieza's goons kill everyone else, while Frieza distracts Elmyra with a kitten or sufficiently cute alien from his army before blasting her with a planet nuking blast to hopefully put her down.

[Kuro]

Remember that time someone thought the Creeper could defeat the Titan, Kronos in God of War?

This is kind of like that.

[Len Ikari145]

Remember that time someone thought the Creeper could defeat the Titan, Kronos in God of War?

This is kind of like that.

Yeah, that was a funny thread. Not as funny as Shadow the Hedgehog vs Thanos with the Reality Gem, but still fairly hilarious in its absurdity.

[droidbull]

This doesn't help them much against DBZ characters.



Yeah, I'm kind of assuming even if this did happen it's hardly the consistent speed they are portrayed at. Especially if it's just a character claim.



Size of explosions?



Most powerful weapon they've pulled from hammerspace?

Well if Frieza and his Army fought the entire Animaniacs cast, their cartoon physics would over power them LOL!.

[Nik Hasta]

Well if Frieza and his Army fought the entire Animaniacs cast, their cartoon physics would over power them LOL!.

Might want to check how the rules here work man.

Statements like that aren't really viable as an argument.

[droidbull]

Might want to check how the rules here work man.

Statements like that aren't really viable as an argument.

Check out Yacko Wacko and Dot, They pretty much defeated anyone in the show, The trio has the most advanced cartoon physics to survive.

[Nik Hasta]

Check out Yacko Wacko and Dot, They pretty much defeated anyone in the show, The trio has the most advanced cartoon physics to survive.

You got specific feats that suggest that they could legitimately fight against an army of multi-mach speed, super strength, flying, energy blasting aliens? Actual specific instances of these characters doing anything that suggests that they could even remotely hurt Frieza?

Or is it all going to be "Cartoon physics lol," from you?

[droidbull]

You got specific feats that suggest that they could legitimately fight against an army of multi-mach speed, super strength, flying, energy blasting aliens? Actual specific instances of these characters doing anything that suggests that they could even remotely hurt Frieza?

Or is it all going to be "Cartoon physics lol," from you?

Do you really need strong detail on wacki cartoon characters?.

[Sub-Zero MKA]

Do you really need strong detail on wacki cartoon characters?.

We need feats from you to suggest that these toons can survive an all-out blitz & and planet nuking attack from Frieza.

[Nik Hasta]

Do you really need strong detail on wacki cartoon characters?.

This is why I suggested you read the rules.

Here on Rumbles we operate by demonstrated feats. Every character, regardless of origin, narrative tone or presentation within the context of their home fiction; is required to present feats to back up any claims made for them in any competition on the board. This may seem some what asinine or ridiculous when dealing with comedic characters who operate by the rule of funny but it's the rules of the board and the rules apply to everyone.

So, to answer your question; yes, we do need detail. MunchKING provided some excellent high end feats so it's clear that they are available. If you want to claim that Frieza and his armies lose, then you have to provide feats to explain why.

[Surtur]

Do you really need strong detail on wacki cartoon characters?.

Look we get it: the toons are wacky, they defy physics, etc.(though it should be pointed out that Z fighters defy physics too in some ways, 99% of characters with super powers defy physics) That's all fine and dandy, but it doesn't help us much here since they need actual feats. You might say that is "too serious", but the alternative would simply be "the toons win lol" which is..pointless. I get that you might want a "fun" debate, but saying "toons win because cartoon physics" isn't really fun.

[droidbull]

Yakko, Wakko and Dot were kept locked in the Warner Bros. watertower for the safety of the public. They have since escaped and are themselves swirling forces of pure chaos, with every Toony power and trick in the book at their disposal. When Yakko, Wakko and Dot go shopping, they just can't help but cause a wee bit of trouble.

How would Frieza and his Army be able to handle them?.

[Nik Hasta]

Yakko, Wakko and Dot were kept locked in the Warner Bros. watertower for the safety of the public. They have since escaped and are themselves swirling forces of pure chaos, with every Toony power and trick in the book at their disposal. When Yakko, Wakko and Dot go shopping, they just can't help but cause a wee bit of trouble.

How would Frieza and his Army be able to handle them?.

This isn't feats.

Give us specific feats. This is how the rules the work on this site. If you can't work within those rules you probably won't last around here.