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    Makes sense.

    So if Jamie Braddock created Fantomex (and Father didn't?) what about John Sublime, who is referenced in this issue by Skinless Man? And how did Jamie Braddock get involved? I'm not sure I follow your theory but I'm not disagreeing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cadaverine View Post
    Makes sense.

    So if Jamie Braddock created Fantomex (and Father didn't?) what about John Sublime, who is referenced in this issue by Skinless Man? And how did Jamie Braddock get involved? I'm not sure I follow your theory but I'm not disagreeing.
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    I get confused if I think too much about Father/The Descendants thing, I'm not even sure what the Descendants are. A cult? A corporation? Their creations? I got lost when Deadpool killed Father in The World and it destroyed the Deathloks. I thought that wiped out Roxxon in some AU, but I thought cyborg-Deathstrike was from there as well and she showed up later.

    I have no idea what's going on with the Father plot anymore because of that. I probably misunderstood 1-2 things and it confused me on a bunch of unrelated plots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cadaverine View Post
    I get confused if I think too much about Father/The Descendants thing, I'm not even sure what the Descendants are. A cult? A corporation? Their creations? I got lost when Deadpool killed Father in The World and it destroyed the Deathloks. I thought that wiped out Roxxon in some AU, but I thought cyborg-Deathstrike was from there as well and she showed up later.

    I have no idea what's going on with the Father plot anymore because of that. I probably misunderstood 1-2 things and it confused me on a bunch of unrelated plots.
    Seeing Father walk around in Secret Avengers after he was "killed" probably didn't help. And is Mother a hologram or not? And how is she related to the Mother-Ship hologram that was educating Kid Apocalypse?
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    Quote Originally Posted by darknessatnoon View Post
    I said James is "Father," and realized later that it was incorrect and that he's "Brother," but didn't bother to correct it since I knew that either way, as Father or Brother, Braddock created Fantomex. It was a negligible detail not worth another post. It was discussed ad nauseum in another thread a few months back.



    Given that he's a mutant supremacist, Quentin would be pretty insecure around Apocalypse.

    Like I said, you have no idea what you're talking about......

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    Quote Originally Posted by wader0069 View Post
    Like I said, you have no idea what you're talking about......
    You're being childish and derailing the thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darknessatnoon View Post
    You're being childish and derailing the thread.
    I'm sorry you keep back pedaling and changing your story. Maybe you shouldn't Freud everything up..l..

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    Freud saw phallic imagery everywhere, I don't here anybody complaining about penises all over this issue.


    Anyway, that misuse of reference aside, really wondering why Gateway had that coming. It seems like he just eluded off-panel death not long ago, now he's got his neck snapped on panel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darknessatnoon View Post
    Sublime is a bacteria. I'm never sure what to think about him.
    lol, exactly. John Sublime can get steamrolled over when it comes to some gripping incest and extreme character degradation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by worstblogever View Post
    Freud saw phallic imagery everywhere, I don't here anybody complaining about penises all over this issue.


    Anyway, that misuse of reference aside, really wondering why Gateway had that coming. It seems like he just eluded off-panel death not long ago, now he's got his neck snapped on panel.
    That isn't why I said it.....

    And it was stated Ultimatum killed gateway so no one could teleport away.... It's like you're not even trying....
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    Quote Originally Posted by darknessatnoon View Post
    I think Quentin looks at Apocalypse and doesn't like what he sees about himself, so he acts like a bully.
    Quire bullies Evan and Broo

    But who bullies Quire?

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    Yes, until Mystique stabs him in the back.
    I don't Daken would mind her "stabbing" him in the back...in fact I'm sure he would enjoy it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dudebro McTypo View Post
    Quire bullies Evan and Broo

    But who bullies Quire?
    Quire bullies himself. He likes Evan and Broo (and others he mistreats or has gotten killed) and lives with what he does/did to them. I'm hoping he stays good/neutral though, it would be too easy to make him a villain and way more interesting to keep him as a fringe friend going against his own nature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wader0069 View Post
    That isn't why I said it.....

    And it was stated Ultimatum killed gateway so no one could teleport away.... It's like you're not even trying....
    Can't AOA Nightcrawler teleport them away?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wader0069 View Post
    That isn't why I said it.....

    And it was stated Ultimatum killed gateway so no one could teleport away.... It's like you're not even trying....
    No, you're trying to hard to be rambling and unnecessarily confrontational, and not trying hard enough to say anything intelligent.

    I was asking why the CREATORS decided to kill Gateway, after just resurrecting him two years ago. Christ.

    And as someone just pointed out, yeah, Darkholme can teleport, besides. That had f*** all to do with strategy by the Sentinel going back to its default programming, and was just, "nearest mutant, GO!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cadaverine View Post
    Quire bullies himself. He likes Evan and Broo (and others he mistreats or has gotten killed) and lives with what he does/did to them. I'm hoping he stays good/neutral though, it would be too easy to make him a villain and way more interesting to keep him as a fringe friend going against his own nature.
    Part of me wants to see Quire and Hellion become friends
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