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    Quote Originally Posted by Hi-Fi View Post
    Since when was Gold side de flagship? That makes no sense.
    It does if flagship means the book that is not selling nearly as well, otherwise it makes no sense at all as you said
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    I like Remender but reading his Secret Avengers doesn't really give me much hope for Uncanny Avengers being a worthy replacement for Uncanny and All New X-men is like the weakest pitch ever.
    Its like someone took the X-babies idea and thought it wasn't a joke
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hi-Fi View Post
    I love Gillen, but there are lines that I can't cross.
    Same here. I'm only interested if Mister Sinister is the man behind the armor, crossing futurism with eugenics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthCyclopsRLZ View Post
    Sales dropped all across the board. Gold side got all the good press and WatXM was the flagship. How is that *not* a failure at reinvigorating the franchise?
    There was a bit of a depression from the May sales to the June sales - which is a common and predictable event (usually attributed to college age kids going off on on break). Compared to last year and the year before it, sales in general has been on an upward trajectory.
    It's been a long time since Uncanny has sold this well, which is exactly why KG is being pilfered to write the lagging Iron Man book.

    Quote Originally Posted by darknessatnoon View Post
    Same here. I'm only interested if Mister Sinister is the man behind the armor, crossing futurism with eugenics.
    For reals. Unless KG foes full Howard Hughes with Stark and makes him into a full fledged weirdo, I'm not going to want anything to do with the armored avengers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthCyclopsRLZ View Post
    Sales dropped all across the board. Gold side got all the good press and WatXM was the flagship. How is that *not* a failure at reinvigorating the franchise?
    Why is it WAX's fault New Mutants, X-Men and Gen Hope all sunk? Gold side overall at least stayed consistent sales wise.

    I'm extremely happy Wood's book is holding on though. Moar King Storm!
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    This is sad but unexpected. Welcome to limbo, New Mutants and staff of the JGSHL. I think if XML had a proper reboot with Gage came on as writer it would've survived.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jarrod View Post
    Why is it WAX's fault New Mutants, X-Men and Gen Hope all sunk? Gold side overall at least stayed consistent sales wise.

    I'm extremely happy Wood's book is holding on though. Moar King Storm!
    Gen Hope was brilliant, though. Such a shame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maestro View Post
    Uncanny Avengers and All-New X-Men should be even more profitable. and Kieron Gillen is moving on to bigger and better things!
    kieron gillen was in the biggest and better book with the greatest sales. so , bigger than this in marvel just don't exist. Avengers is not biger comic book never was never will be. They suffer from 50 years of sucky stories so they will never have a mythos like the x-men do because they never had a claremont for 20 years. They will always be behind the x-men in sales and they will never reach guiness record for comic book sales and despite the fact that marvel is trying to make them their premiere team, i know and they know (that's why bendis got tired and left) that they will end up again like the 90s (when they died in an x-men crossover)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hi-Fi View Post
    Gen Hope was brilliant, though. Such a shame.
    I know. I kind of wish Kenji were still alive to slither around the Phoenix 5, trying to get a taste.
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    Why is Astonishing allowed to continue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jarrod View Post
    Why is it WAX's fault New Mutants, X-Men and Gen Hope all sunk? Gold side overall at least stayed consistent sales wise.

    I'm extremely happy Wood's book is holding on though. Moar King Storm!
    New Mutants was always only slighty behind X-Factor. Gen Hope sunk pretty badly no arguments there. X-Men usually does better than X-Men Legacy, before AvX anyway. Wolverine and the X-Men has always been below Uncanny X-Men. The only advantage they have is Uncanny X-Force, and that one is barely about the gold side, it's its own thing. Actually, I'd say that about X-Factor too.

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    So this is the cover image to the last issue of Legacy, a book that will ship shortly after the conclusion of AvX. I know one cannot deduce too much from cover images, but might it offer some clues as to who will and will not survive the endings of AvX?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Sonic View Post
    There was a bit of a depression from the May sales to the June sales - which is a common and predictable event (usually attributed to college age kids going off on on break).
    No, not really. Let's look at the pre Avx landscape.

    UXM = solid
    New Mutants = fail
    Generation Hope = fail
    X-Men = fail

    WatXM = solid; stabilized to UXM level after a 2-3 issues strong start
    Uncanny X-Force = solid
    Legacy = fail
    Astonishing = fail
    X-Factor = astonishingly stable, but numbers were worthy of a fail to begin with

    All books I callously labelled as fails had diminishing sales prior to Schism. The event didn't change that thread. Amusingly enough, the Blue side books who failed were pretty much doomed prior to Schim while there was actual hope for Legacy/Astonishing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foon4000 View Post
    This is sad but unexpected. Welcome to limbo, New Mutants and staff of the JGSHL. I think if XML had a proper reboot with Gage came on as writer it would've survived.
    I think the real problem for Legacy is redundancy; it doesn't cover any bases thematically that WAX and Astonishing don't already. Plus it's losing Rogue to UA, so even the POV angle is screwed. Gage got a bum deal.
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