EXCLUSIVE: Snyder Gets Under Joker's Skin In "Batman: Death Of The Family"

[Hromovlad]

The interesting thing about a Red Hood confrontation is it won't end with Jason killing Joker so how are they going to manage that? If Jason doesn't kill him by personal choice, he is a bit of a hypocrit.

Maybe he'll just run away
wouldn't be the first time

[FailureByDesign]

Confirms on IGN that back up will feature other rogues and their relationship with Joker.

[Zagra]

Confirms on IGN that back up will feature other rogues and their relationship with Joker.

Hmmmm.... so we can expect this new arc to be 3.99 a piece thanks to those back ups... damn...

[Rud]

I would love to see Batwoman involved in this event for it to be a FULL ON BATMAN FAMILY TITLES event, I mean she wasn't even involved in the "Night of the Owls" event.

Nah i dont really consider Batwoman to be "close" enough to Batman taht it would really matter to him personally taht she like dies or something... yeah sure, shes in the Batman Family but is she REALLY part of the family?... i think not.

[maxpower00044]

Hmmmm.... so we can expect this new arc to be 3.99 a piece thanks to those back ups... damn...

The book's been 3.99 since issue 8(?).

[cphilli]

I'm a bit surprised to see another cross over event so soon after The Court of Owls but I can't help but be excited about it. I only read Batman and Batman Inc so I'm glad to see that we'll get the whole story in the Batman title.

[Knight12ify]

He's happy cause he thinks the "Face Off" arc was Daniel's idea, when all Snyder did was give him TD credit saying he picked the idea from a couple of options. So, once again; he didn't come up with the idea. He's just getting credit for CHOOSING the idea. (one of a few that we're actually discussed about.)

Oh, and something about Joker being the mayor....


Edit: and those posts vanished. Meaning this one will, too.

The Joker COULD have been the mayor if he got a normal face before screwing it up.

And what did you do to my POST! I LOVED IT! I %@*& LOVED it! "Hau-Hau" - Grant Morrisons Joker.

Meaning that now all of you guys will go: "Hh".

And **** please, Daniel did come up with the idea, Scott came up with the Story, Daniel came up with the passage into it. And to prove my point, please imaging these quotes in a Mr. Freeze voice:

"When Tony [Daniel] was working on that, he brought it up to me and I knew there was a story that I wanted to tell with Joker that would trail out of that." - Tony thought of the idea.

"What happened was, DC wanted to take the Joker away for a little while to give room to some new villains that they were creating in the New 52. And I had said that I had an idea for a Joker story down the line." - Scott thought of the story that would spawn from the idea before the thought of the idea.

"Tony had a couple different ways that he was thinking of making it possible for the Joker to go away for a bit. And in doing so, we talked about his possibility as something we both liked." - Tony thought of multiple ideas including the Dollmaker.

"And whichever one Tony picked, I knew I could work with it. And this was the one he really wanted to go with. So I figured I'd tail off of that into this story." - Proves that though Scott had a say in the ending, as he had already thought of the story, Tony was in full control and had full creativity to make the idea.


So what this proves, ladies and transvestites,

Is the simple fact that jabroni pie only tastes better depending on who you thought made it.

In other words:

So many loved Detective 1 for the twist, so many hated it but then loved it after finding out that Scott was behind it. Now that you know that Scott was only behind this story, and that Daniel was behind disappearing the Joker (getting rid of him for this story), how does it taste?

[Jake V]

The Joker COULD have been the mayor if he got a normal face before screwing it up.

And what did you do to my POST! I LOVED IT! I %@*& LOVED it! "Hau-Hau" - Grant Morrisons Joker.

Meaning that now all of you guys will go: "Hh".

And **** please, Daniel did come up with the idea, Scott came up with the Story, Daniel came up with the passage into it. And to prove my point, please imaging these quotes in a Mr. Freeze voice:

"When Tony [Daniel] was working on that, he brought it up to me and I knew there was a story that I wanted to tell with Joker that would trail out of that." - Tony thought of the idea.

"What happened was, DC wanted to take the Joker away for a little while to give room to some new villains that they were creating in the New 52. And I had said that I had an idea for a Joker story down the line." - Scott thought of the story that would spawn from the idea before the thought of the idea.

"Tony had a couple different ways that he was thinking of making it possible for the Joker to go away for a bit. And in doing so, we talked about his possibility as something we both liked." - Tony thought of multiple ideas including the Dollmaker.

"And whichever one Tony picked, I knew I could work with it. And this was the one he really wanted to go with. So I figured I'd tail off of that into this story." - Proves that though Scott had a say in the ending, as he had already thought of the story, Tony was in full control and had full creativity to make the idea.


So what this proves, ladies and transvestites,

Is the simple fact that jabroni pie only tastes better depending on who you thought made it.

In other words:

So many loved Detective 1 for the twist, so many hated it but then loved it after finding out that Scott was behind it. Now that you know that Scott was only behind this story, and that Daniel was behind disappearing the Joker (getting rid of him for this story), how does it taste?

Its a crap idea no matter who came up with it. No one deserves praise for it.

[vampiric_cannibal]

The Joker having a big story is not in itself a bad thing, neither is a crossover. Sounds like a shorter arc than what Snyder has previously done, I think I saw 6 months mentioned, but with more buildup previously. So, it'll be at least decent, possibly excellent.

The title probably has little substance, I doubt anyone will die that is important or at least regularly used since the relaunch. If the DC editors want a meaningless death 4 teh contrvC then it will be a character introduced either in the arc or since the relaunch, or maybe an unbenched character to really stir things up. Though the way I interpret the title seems more like the family itself, not any members, will die. So probably everyone will go off to be a loner at the end, after some shocking twist ending.

And why on earth is the IGN interview so much more in depth than the CBR one?

[cosmicjoke]

Maybe he'll just run away
wouldn't be the first time

Or maybe the Joker'll get the drop on Jason and mess him up? It sounds more like the Joker's the one who's going to be bringing the fight, and he IS the Joker. He's Batman's most dangerous villain, so it's entirely possible and plausible that he ends up messing everyone up in a big way.

What I'd love to see particularly is the Joker mess with all of the Bat-family members on a psychological level. The awesome thing about the Joker is that, he doesn't have to lay a finger on you to beat you, or really damage you. What makes him so dangerous is that he's smarter than just about everyone, is better than just about anyone at gleaning what any given person's inner fears and desires are, etc... and better than just about anyone at then playing mind games with what he can see about you. From what Scott says, that really sounds like what's going to happen, and that's how the Joker's going to tear everyone down. Certainly, they'll be lots of violence involved, as it always is with the Joker, but it sounds also like he's going to be unraveling some folks mentally, and that's very exciting to me. He doesn't have to get into physical confrontations with the Bat-family to beat them, or hurt them. The Joker's all about the psychological.

[Mr. Holmes]

The title probably has little substance, I doubt anyone will die that is important or at least regularly used since the relaunch. If the DC editors want a meaningless death 4 teh contrvC then it will be a character introduced either in the arc or since the relaunch, or maybe an unbenched character to really stir things up. Though the way I interpret the title seems more like the family itself, not any members, will die. So probably everyone will go off to be a loner at the end, after some shocking twist ending.

Yeah this just sounds like a cash-in on Joker's popularity. I doubt anything significant will happen.

[lalala]

The title probably has little substance, I doubt anyone will die that is important or at least regularly used since the relaunch. If the DC editors want a meaningless death 4 teh contrvC then it will be a character introduced either in the arc or since the relaunch, or maybe an unbenched character to really stir things up. Though the way I interpret the title seems more like the family itself, not any members, will die. So probably everyone will go off to be a loner at the end, after some shocking twist ending.

Agreed completely.

I dunno, I like Snyders writting so far, but I'm worried that this story is either going to have some needless shock tactics thrown in (letting the Joker dance on a side characters face to show he's evil) or end with the entire family being at odds with eachother for a reason thats gonna make them all look stupid or petty.

I guess I'm going to be optimistic going in and say that this story's going to be really good, wouldn't really be fair for me to write it off based on the title, a couple of early interviews and my bordom with writters contstantly referencing The kiling Joke and The Dark Knight Returns as their main influences.

[maxpower00044]

Lots of words...

It tastes fine. I've already stated, more than once, that I thought the idea was cool from the start. And, even though I eventually thought it was Snyder , and now see it was more Daniel's idea, it still hasn't changed how I felt about it.

[Knight12ify]

Or this could and probably will end in time for: Trinity War.

The family at odds with each other, choosing sides? Hnnn. I think I remember that a part of Trinity War was the heroes having to put their differences aside. Could we be seeing the start of that now?

[Rogue07]

Finally a Batman story that features Joker as the center piece! Seems like forever since we've had that. He's been around but usually as a side character.

Joker needs to do something to reastablish himself as THE Batman villain. What has he really done anyhow? Killed Robin? No he didn't, he has his own series. Crippled Batgirl? Nope, she's in her own series too. Wish Joker would do something "bad" to me so I can star in my own comic series :).

This crossover nonsense is gonna be a joke in of itself anyhow. Joker will show up in Batgirl, Babs will conquer her "fear" of him and then proceed to kick his ass. Then Mr. J will show up in Nightwing, get his ass handed to him before limping off to Jason and Damien where he will receive 2 more ass kickings. Then Batman will beat him to a pulp with dialogue boxes stating how dangerous and crazy Joker is to him and how they are forever linked. Then the Batman series will proceed on to the next arc where Batman will actually fight a villain thats more of a challenge.

I am hoping Snyder does back up his words and gives us a Joker that isn't a complete tool. I really hope Joker does something really evil and bad and it sticks!