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    xD I'm not sure, it could be like some of the comics, she leaves him for dead with Bane, is about to leave with thousands in value of stolen crap then realises she must help him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Walton View Post
    Yeah, a little ridiculous in hindsight. Especially considering that he usually started dosing right in front of them.

    Maybe Bruce won't know what the mask is for until later, because I'm pretty sure he entered Knightfall with full knowledge that Bane was a Venom addict.
    Wayne found out about Bane being a a Venom derivative when Bane confronted him in Wayne Manor, so I'm willing to cut a little slack there. Still, even with that, seems like the World's Greatest Detective could have put two-and-two together long before that.
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    It was all too drag it out but like Joker once said, the way to fool the worlds greatest detective is to have the answer right 'In front of his pointy nose'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Thompson View Post
    Wayne found out about Bane being a a Venom derivative when Bane confronted him in Wayne Manor, so I'm willing to cut a little slack there. Still, even with that, seems like the World's Greatest Detective could have put two-and-two together long before that.
    Yeah, unless some Gotham celebrities were on an intravaneous feeding tube diet craze at the time.

    Kind of like how Clark grew his hair long, and when asked if people would notice Superman did the same, he was like, "Nah! Everyone's rocking a ponytail or mullet these days!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by DebkoX View Post
    It was all too drag it out but like Joker once said, the way to fool the worlds greatest detective is to have the answer right 'In front of his pointy nose'
    Eh...that's a bit much, though. The Joker was thinking more...metaphorical.

    But like Jim said, Bruce wasn't at his best when he discovered the truth.

    AzBats, on the other hand, had a while to figure it out.

    I did like the way Bane got off Venom after that confrontation, though. The move from conquering Batman to conquering himself was cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Walton View Post
    Yeah, unless some Gotham celebrities were on an intravaneous feeding tube diet craze at the time.

    Kind of like how Clark grew his hair long, and when asked if people would notice Superman did the same, he was like, "Nah! Everyone's rocking a ponytail or mullet these days!"
    xD Probs, knowing that scum hole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DebkoX View Post
    It was all too drag it out but like Joker once said, the way to fool the worlds greatest detective is to have the answer right 'In front of his pointy nose'
    Well, it's something BBC's Moriarty pointed out to Holmes in the new Sherlock series: Holmes great weakness, Moriarty said, was that he preferred the complex and unusual, so he had a tendency to skip right past the mundane.
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    Yup, who knows, maybe the Joker will make a cryptic appearance? Not in face, only through reference. I also hope Bane says 'Clown' in spanish ;D
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Walton View Post
    Yeah, unless some Gotham celebrities were on an intravaneous feeding tube diet craze at the time.
    Yeah, I understand, but seeing a couple of tubes leading right back into someone's skull, and point blank being told it was how Venom is supplied to Bane's bloodstream was a bit of a give away. Plus, Bruce's own experience with Venom should have given him some insight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Thompson View Post
    Yeah, I understand, but seeing a couple of tubes leading right back into someone's skull, and point blank being told it was how Venom is supplied to Bane's bloodstream was a bit of a give away. Plus, Bruce's own experience with Venom should have given him some insight.
    I was being facetious. There's really not much excuse for letting that one slip by, so any explanation is going to strain credibility!
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Walton View Post
    I was being facetious. There's really not much excuse for letting that one slip by, so any explanation is going to strain credibility!
    Best one out there is he was exhausted at that point -- and even that is pushing the envelope, I think.
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    Just a general question here: Why do so many people hope that John Blake becomes Batman? If that happens, I think it will ruin the whole trilogy for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Thompson View Post
    Best one out there is he was exhausted at that point -- and even that is pushing the envelope, I think.
    Yeah, and there's still no reason why he should call Jean Paul Valley and Tim Drake and give them a heads-up.

    For that matter, Tim should have figured it out faster than anyone at the time.

    I love Knightfall, but they really went to ridiculous lengths to strain Bruce's relationships at that point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaNaught View Post
    Just a general question here: Why do so many people hope that John Blake becomes Batman? If that happens, I think it will ruin the whole trilogy for me.
    Part of it, for me, is that I think Batman ought to be a generational character, meaning that the mantle of the Bat passes from one person to another every so often. It makes sense to me for that to happen, and would, I think, help keep the character fresh and relevant to future generations. Inside the structure of the Nolan-verse, I think such a move would be in complete keeping with a lot of the themes that have been developed to this point, not the least being Batman is unkillable because he is more than just a man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Thompson View Post
    Part of it, for me, is that I think Batman ought to be a generational character, meaning that the mantle of the Bat passes from one person to another every so often. It makes sense to me for that to happen, and would, I think, help keep the character fresh and relevant to future generations. Inside the structure of the Nolan-verse, I think such a move would be in complete keeping with a lot of the themes that have been developed to this point, not the least being Batman is unkillable because he is more than just a man.
    That's a fair assessment, but I just don't like when heroes "pass the mantle". I guess I am just "old school" in that regard. To me Batman is Bruce Wayne. Even Superman thinks so, (Superman to Dick Grayson, "YOU ARE WEARING HIS SKIN!") and who am I to argue with Superman.

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