B.P.R.D. Hell on Earth: Return of the Master

[Middenway]

Mignolaversity review and discuss issue 2.

[thwhtGuardian]

A pretty great second issue. This is old school BPRD and I love it! There was a letter in Hellmail discussing being disappointed about the last few BPRD stories, I know I felt similarly though I never contemplated dropping the book, I wonder though if the writer of that letter feels the same way about this story? It's blowing me away so far, certainly the best since the Black Flame.

[cantide]

Agghh

agghhhhh

That was amazing and terrifying and I can't come up with a more coherent response than that.

[thwhtGuardian]

Part of me wonders why they haven't figured out Zinco is bad news yet. I mean, I know as readers we're privileged with more information than the BPRD members in story, but you think with all the occult research they do, no matter how secretive that may be, that they'd at least be on the BPRD's radar.

[cantide]

Part of me wonders why they haven't figured out Zinco is bad news yet. I mean, I know as readers we're privileged with more information than the BPRD members in story, but you think with all the occult research they do, no matter how secretive that may be, that they'd at least be on the BPRD's radar.

They're apparently really good at covering their tracks...

I would think they'd have blacklisted Zinco since their founder turned out to be a crazy neo-Nazi and their equipment kept blowing up on Hellboy forever ago, but I guess memory fades with time ;)

[Middenway]

Keep in mind, the BPRD never knew who The Black Flame was. And Zinco's major activities didn't begin until after the frog war began, when the BPRD was spread thin and under-funded.

[Crawlerette]

Yeah, before that they just made crappy jetpacks and such, didn't they?

[cantide]

Yeah, before that they just made crappy jetpacks and such, didn't they?

They did.

I always had the suspicion that they were intentionally crappy... at least, the ones they supplied to the BPRD...

(I will find controversy in anything.)

Keep in mind, the BPRD never knew who The Black Flame was. And Zinco's major activities didn't begin until after the frog war began, when the BPRD was spread thin and under-funded.

I was talking about Roderick Zinco, but that's a very good point too!

[Rastagir]

Some question:

Why Kate said to Johan "Now that Ben is dead, you can have a body"? What Ben had to do with whether or not Johan gets his wish? Doesn't she know how the Wendigo works, that Ben's soul is still alive and trapped in the Wendigo? If someone should know this it's Kate, the Folklore and Occult specialist.


Beyond that.... It seems strange that the BPRD was willing to give away the under-developed body with no supervision to Zinco. Kate was nearly paranoid when it came to the Russian Bureau, but released the superhuman body in the care of Zinco with no BPRD agents taging along? (unless there ARE agents and they just don't appear in this issue).


Why Iosif says to Varvara "your friends" when it comes to the BPRD team in search of Lazar and not "our friends" or "my friends"? Mocking or something else?



(I am looking for things that aren't there, or I am not? :P )



Great second issue by the way!

[meorsomeone]

the blind eye to Zinco reminds me of the real world

[Donald]

Why Iosif says to Varvara "your friends" when it comes to the BPRD team in search of Lazar and not "our friends" or "my friends"? Mocking or something else?

Iosif says "your friend Dr Lazar", has wasn't referring to the BPRD as her freinds.

I don't think crappy Zinco equipment showed up until after Roderick was contacted by Rasputin, so I'd say the poor equipment is intentional.

[Rastagir]

I am not sure. Here is what he says.

I was thinking of you. Always of you...and your friends. They are marching, marching across Scotland, snowflake and they will find Lazar, I think. The BPRD, they are very good at their jobs, and I think they will find him.


I don't know, I think that when he says "your friends" he means the BPRD....He could mean Lazars followers, but they are not "marching across Scotland".

[Donald]

After re-reading, I think he's talking about two different groups.

"Always of you...and your friends. They are marching, marching across Scotland, snowflake and they will find Lazar, I think" means the assassins the guy carving the spikes mentioned.

-Iosif changes the subject-

"The BPRD, they are very good at their jobs, and I think they will find him." meaning Lazar. There'd be no need to say 'they'll find him' twice if he was talking about the BPRD in both sentences.

[Thomas Uk]

Some question:

Why Kate said to Johan "Now that Ben is dead, you can have a body"? What Ben had to do with whether or not Johan gets his wish? Doesn't she know how the Wendigo works, that Ben's soul is still alive and trapped in the Wendigo? If someone should know this it's Kate, the Folklore and Occult specialist.

Great second issue by the way!

Maybe Johan didn't tell her everything that happened? Wish we'd seen him explain himself to her.

So issue 2 was great, its nice to see some of the plot points from the last few minis coming together. Sal Tusso (name?)
seemed like a cool character, has he appeared before (havent read the abe minis or a couple of hellboy ones set back in the day)
hope hes not just story fodder and makes it through the series.

[Mechano]

Will bacon and floozies be johann's first stop if he gets a body back?