Marvel Omnibus/Oversized Hardcover Discussion Part V

[rmfwfu]

Adamantium Collection:

ORIGIN #1-6;MARVEL COMICS PRESENTS (1988) #72-84; UNCANNY X-MEN (1963) #162, #205 and #268; WOLVERINE (1982) #1-4; WOLVERINE (1988) #75 and #119-122; WOLVERINE (2003) #32; and WOLVERINE & THE X-MEN #1-3.

Wolverine Omnibus:

Wolverine #1-4; Wolverine (vol. 2) #1-10; Marvel Comics Presents #1-10, #72-84; The Incredible Hulk #180-182, #340; Marvel Treasury Edition #26; The Best of Marvel Comics; Kitty Pryde and Wolverine #1-6; Spider-Man vs. Wolverine #1; Marvel Age Annual #4; The Punisher War Journal #6-7; Captain America Annual #8; Uncanny X-Men #172-173

So we have

- Wolverine 1-4 (Miller/Claremont)
- MCP 72-84 (Weapon X - Windsor-Smith)

in both of them.

What other Wolverine stories (apart from Origin) are in the Adamantium one? Are those crucial stories?

The Adamantium also has--the Not Dead Yet storyline by Ellis; the recent Aaron post-Schism story where Wolverine launches a new school for mutants; three X-Men stories--Wolverine infected by a Brood (162), attacked by Reavers & Lady Deathstrike (205) that was in the Best of Wolverine OHC, and the WWII flashback story with Cap and Black Widow (also in Claremont/Lee omnibus);plus a couple others I don't recall easily.

All in all, unless you love to see the artwork blown up larger than an omnibus, this is a "pass" for the pricetag (personal opinion). Most of the material is already available for less (and with more stories), and cutting off UXM 172-173 diminishes the Miller mini-series. Others can add their opinions, but the Ellis and Aaron stories aren't worth the extra, extra, extra dollars to get when the HCs are somewhat easy to find and don't need OHC+ size.

Me, I'm debating if I should get the Origin OHC since I have the first Wolverine omnibus.

[studioremark]

The Adamantium also has--the Not Dead Yet storyline by Ellis; the recent Aaron post-Schism story where Wolverine launches a new school for mutants; three X-Men stories--Wolverine infected by a Brood (162), attacked by Reavers & Lady Deathstrike (205) that was in the Best of Wolverine OHC, and the WWII flashback story with Cap and Black Widow (also in Claremont/Lee omnibus);plus a couple others I don't recall easily.

All in all, unless you love to see the artwork blown up larger than an omnibus, this is a "pass" for the pricetag (personal opinion). Most of the material is already available for less (and with more stories), and cutting off UXM 172-173 diminishes the Miller mini-series. Others can add their opinions, but the Ellis and Aaron stories aren't worth the extra, extra, extra dollars to get when the HCs are somewhat easy to find and don't need OHC+ size.

Me, I'm debating if I should get the Origin OHC since I have the first Wolverine omnibus.

Since I have the omnibus and am not interested in recent Wolverine material, I'd not been seriously considering the Adamantium collection... however, I was keeping an eye out for the full details+ price. As you said, just on price alone, this would be a no-go. It's interesting that Marvel is finally getting into the Absolute-style game, but starting at this price point makes me wonder if the line won't end up DOA.

[NZ_InFerno]

Yet no omnibus

Not in for the WOLVERINE: THE ADAMANTIUM COLLECTION

Yeah, surprising considering they've normally done at least one for non-Marvel produced films. Also no Iron Man Omnibus but a whole lot of tpbs/HCs.

Maybe Don was right, we are definitely seeing a massive reduction in Omnibus output in regards to movie releases.

Adamantium collection is a strange one, extremely pricey and not much of it is great content. Do like the rerelease of Miller/Claremont Wolverine, that's the third (and with the Adamantium collection 4th) time its been in an oversized collection. Will be holding onto my Best of Wolverine.

[LordJulius]

Yeah, surprising considering they've normally done at least one for non-Marvel produced films. Also no Iron Man Omnibus but a whole lot of tpbs/HCs.

Maybe Don was right, we are definitely seeing a massive reduction in Omnibus output in regards to movie releases.

I'd still say that we get the Adamantium book instead of an Omnibus. It would not make much sense for Marvel to publish two premium books at the same time for the film - especially if one of them is a $200 book and both are for the most part aimed at the same customers, i.e. collectors.

Perhaps we'll see an Omnibus when the DVD is out.

I also think it's quite consumer friendly of Marvel to publish some of the more important material from that huge-ass book in OHCs (Miller/Origin) so that you can still enjoy these in oversized HC format without having to spend $150-200.

[ER Prest]

What else is there of Wolverine to release as an omnibus, other than a reprint of the first one? an Aaron volume 2?

[Omnibus]

What else is there of Wolverine to release as an omnibus, other than a reprint of the first one? an Aaron volume 2?

Nothing worthy in his stand alone Wolverine comic of 300 issues?

[Omnibus]

Doh....double post

[ER Prest]

Nothing worthy in his stand alone Wolverine comic of 300 issues?

I dunno, that's why I'm asking :P

I haven't heard much of anything about his monthly. I'vre read some of the newer stuff when the restarted it, Rucka's was good, but only 19 issues and is now an Ultimate Collection, Millar's was alright, already in an ohc and Ultimate Collection, then there's Way's run and Loeb's...I don't know much about the 90's series.

[Rimmer]

Nothing worthy in his stand alone Wolverine comic of 300 issues?

I remember getting the first series when I was a kid, where he was all in black, and always in Madripoor. I remember liking the series at the time, but I can't for the life of me remember any of it now (no longer have the singles). So I guess that's kinda an answer - nothing memorable.

RE:Iron Man - if we're getting the Layton IM omnibus for the movie, can't they at least release another 'omnibus lite' OHC of Fraction's run? I believe there would be vols 3 and 4 before his run was completed. I'd be very interested in those. I also have always found it interesting how both of those Iron Man OHCs (vols 1 & 2) are so cheap. Consistently cheap. Makes me think they printed WAY too many of them both.

[krisis]

After a bit of searching I found this post about Wolverine Omnis!

Re: Aaron Volume 2

• Portions of Wolverine: The Road to Hell
• Wolverine #1-20, #5.1, and #300-304
• Astonishing Spider-Man & Wolverine #1-6

That puts it at about the same size as the first Aaron Omni. It even ends with some Japan-related stuff, which aligns well with the movie!

Schism is already an OHC, and we have discussed previously that it would not make sense to include it here as well.

A second Wolverine Classic Volume could collect him through 1991:

• Wolverine #11-47 (same ending as Essential Wolverine Vol. 2)
• MCP #38-50 (equivalent to about 4 issues)
• MCP #51-61 (equivalent to about 3.5 issues)
• MCP #62-71 (equivalent to about 3 issues)

Then:

Wolverine's original solo series actually chunks pretty handily into Omnibus volumes:

• #10-47, end of Omni Vol. 1 to natural breaking point from the end of Essentials Vol. 2
• #48-69, glorious 90s Wolverine with Adamantium (this is the break-point used by the Essentials, but #74 makes more sense for shelving OHCs)
• [Fatal Attractions OHC comes here]
• #70- or 76- 102, 106-114, post-Fatal Attractions period without Adamantium through Zero Tolerance, minus Onslaught (There is a break-point at #90 for AOA. Essential ended this period at #110)
• #119-145, non-Adamantium period with some high-profile creators including Ellis and Larson, ends at "The Twelve" crossover (problematic because some of this contains Skrull Wolverine without really resolving that plot)
• #150-189, pre-Rucka reboot

Wolverine, Vol. 3 has already been carved up significantly into collections - the Rucka UC, the Enemy of the State OHC, Civil War and House of M issues in their respective OHCs, Old Man Logan as an OHC, and then the Aaron stuff. There are literally only a pair of arcs that have NOT been recollected into bigger collections ... not to say that they couldn't do it, but all of these different arcs don't tonally fit together very well.

Wolverine Origins was 50 issues with a 5-issue intro in Wolverine Vol. 3 and crossovers with X-Men Legacy and Daken, so that would be two Omnis, minium.

[LordJulius]

After a bit of searching I found this post about Wolverine Omnis!

Are any of #11-47 of Vol. 1 by Buscema? I'd love some more of that.

[Mobe1969]

Official solicits are out for March. Here's the breakdown on 'new' title releases, HC vs TPB:

HCs:
Uncanny Avengers
Iron Man
Avengers

TPBs:
Red She-Hulk
Fantastic Four
X-Men Legacy

So it looks like the F4's days of being in HC have come to an end... at least for now. I would assume New Avengers (which is lagging behind in issues) will be a HC, and FF will be a TPB...


Also something that looks pretty interesting, albeit a TPB:

ROCKET RACCOON & GROOT: THE COMPLETE COLLECTION TPB
Collecting INCREDIBLE HULK (1968) #271; ROCKET RACCOON #1-4; and material from TALES TO ASTONISH (1959) #13,
MARVEL PREVIEW #7, ANNIHILATORS #1-4 and ANNIHILATORS: EARTHFALL #1-4.

I think I might have to get that one.

No idea what the Iron Man one is? Is it the third Faction OHC?

[Mister Jerusalem]

In response to the question of notable bits in the old Wolverine series, I always thought the death of Mariko (about issue 57), and the storyline after Magneto ripped out his adamantium, i think it was like the first 6 issues or so afterward were good. I personally like quite a bit of the Wolverine and Jubilee team up issues as well. I'd settle for them just being printed in a trade/ultimate collection format ala classic line. I'll probably have to settle for a binding project eventually.

[chicainery]

No idea what the Iron Man one is? Is it the third Faction OHC?

No.

Here are the solicitations.

IRON MAN VOL. 1: BELIEVE PREMIERE HC
Written by KIERON GILLEN
Penciled by GREG LAND
Cover by GREG LAND
Tony Stark is Iron Man — technological visionary, wealthy playboy, unparalleled engineer and armored Avenger. But NOW!, his greatest invention has just become his greatest mistake: The lethal techno-virus Extremis is out in the wild! Tony’s hunt for the rogue Extremis Units takes him to New Camelot, where he clashes with the mech-knights called the Circle and dogfights the Russian Black Exoskeleton Academy; to Colombia, where he battles old foes Vibro, Firebrand and the Living Laser; and to the ancient catacombs of Paris, where absolute horror awaits — and Tony may have to betray an old friend! Introducing Iron Man’s stealth armor, heavy-duty battle-suit and space armor as Tony creates new suits to tackle new challenges! If he wants to save the world from his own deadly nano-virus, Iron Man must act fast — and Tony Stark must build faster! Collecting IRON MAN (2012) #1-5.
112 PGS./Rated T+ …$24.99
ISBN: 978-0-7851-6833-1
Trim size: standard

[Mobe1969]

Argh, I broke down and ordered a copy of Tomb of Dracula V1 for a "reasonably good" (eg under 200) price, and it hasn't arrived. I know it isn't outside of US to Aussie shipping times this time of year, but it is getting to 6 weeks now, and the other two vols I ordered at the some time arrived weeks ago. Getting so nervous... I just hope it isn't lost. Amazon have the end expected delivery date as 3 Jan, and that isn't too far away... But dead set, I've never seen one under $200 for a long time. It was a very reputable big Marketplace book seller, so I'm not worried like they are mucking me about. They responded quick yesterday when I enquired how it was sent (eg, direct USPS or forwarded like Alibris). But man, I hope it arrives :( I'm starting to feel sick about it though.