YOU CAME!
So nobody thinks that it could be: Darkseid, Mongul or Atlas?
Oh well, its probably Myxy then. Why? Why would Jor-El put the Braniac AI in the rocket ship. And can somebody please tell me why the Collector said he was Braniac 1.0 and the Ship said it was Braniac as well? Do the two know each other, distant cousins, sex buddies, friends with benefits, lesbians, gangsters of kandor starring Leonardo Dicap-El?
Brainiac is the Kryptonian version of Artificial intelligence . The Collector says he infiltrated and "became" Brainiac 1.0 aka the Kryptonian mainframe when he invaded it. The one from the ship is a smaller in scope version used for space travel (since obviously, the baby inside it can't exactly drive).
"I'm going to paraphrase Nietzsche, when you judge a work, the work judges you."
Sounds like ol' Morrison has been playing Mass Effect. The Mass Effect games feature the Collectors who, as is revealed in ME2, were being controlled by the Reapers. The Reapers are ultra-advanced AIs who emerge every 50,000 years to harvest all organic life in the galaxy, traveling from world to world. They are unstoppable and fundamentally unknowable.
Anyway, just saying.
Okay, still a bit confusing? Let me get this clear: The Collector becomes Braniac 1.0, the Kryptonian Internet, and takes Kandor, but the internet is still there, but not the Collector anymore, and so Jor-El uses it to make the Braniac AI to pilot Superman to Earth? Sounds cool, but I don't exactly get how the AI could turn on Superman then unless some of the Collectors influence dripped through.
Let's put it this way: the 1.0 is the Internet, the Brainiac of the ship is the Intranet, you know this things some companies has when they want their employees to communicate by mail, but don't want to give them the possibility to watch porn at work. The Intranet is a version of the internet that is self contained and not connected to the rest of the network. The Brainiac on the ship is a self contained version of the original version of Brainiac, who's used to administrate Krypton. Both are of similar design, but aren't linked together.
As for you last question: nobody knows yet if Brainiac is going to be the Brainiac from the rocket (could just be the Collector), and considering how the Brainiac A.I is the thing that's countaining the Collector at the moment, I'd would say that the idea that the Collector somehow manages to '"corrupt" Brainiac isn't completely impossible.
"I'm going to paraphrase Nietzsche, when you judge a work, the work judges you."
No, The Collector is given access to the Kryptonian Network by Professor Van-Da. The Collector assimilates that and 'becomes' it, knowing all that it knows.
Nope. Jor and Lara had already incorporated a new version of the Brainiac AI, one which was not part of the Network and so hadn't been assimilated by The Collector, into the experimental model of the space ark (the rocket).and takes Kandor, but the internet is still there, but not the Collector anymore, and so Jor-El uses it to make the Braniac AI to pilot Superman to Earth?
Currently, the Collector AI is being held in check by the Brainiac AI of the rocket.Sounds cool, but I don't exactly get how the AI could turn on Superman then unless some of the Collectors influence dripped through.
When the Kryptonite engine was removed by the Anti-Superman Army there was a 'break' in the rocket's power supply - this period, up until Kal used his own Kryptonite-'infected' body to power the rocket, could be the point at which seeds of Collector corruption were sowed.
The Collector considers itself and information the same thing, basically. So when he infects teh Brainiac A.I. on Krypton, it considers itself part of that network. When it infects the internet on Earth years later, it considers itself part of that network...and so on and so forth. As akdal said, it now knows all those networks know.
So in a large sense the Collector and Brainiac being the same being, at this point in time, is largely a metaphorical concept. Technically they're still separate entities. Whether they will combine in a more tangible sense in the future remains to be seen.
When the collector came to Krypton it stole not only the city but Krypton's knowledge, the epitome of which is Brainiac but as you know when you steal or copy a file from one location to another in a computer disk , the original is not erased. So now Collector has Brainiac ( and all its features/capabilities) but Krypton does not loose it. Collector may have left some kind of trapdoor in the system in Krypton when he left but we know Jor El can and did probably remove it later.
Later Jor El updated the Brainiac in Krypton so Krypton (or at least the ship if he had not updated the system in the whole planet) now has a better Brainiac which can overtake the old Brainiac and the collector system.
Rehire Grant Morrison for Superman.
Give Lois her own BOOKS.
Keep Scott Lobdell in Superverse forever.
Okay that has explained it a lot for me, thanks guys. I can finally actually distinguish the two. One question, though, where does Braniac 5 fit into all this? Why is he a Braniac when the Collector only was for a while and Braniac is Kryptonian, isn't he Nod-Coluan or something like that.
Also, if the Multitude is Mxy, how did Braniac find out about it. That is why I think that Mxy is an accomplice of the Multitude, or similarly fears the Multitude, but tricks it and leads it through a path of rampage on 333 designated worlds.
Rehire Grant Morrison for Superman.
Give Lois her own BOOKS.
Keep Scott Lobdell in Superverse forever.
Eh, the Collectors in Mass Effect were working for the Reapers, as opposed to The Collector who was saving civilisations by shrinking a sample of them down so their culture would not be lost. Plus, the Reapers aren't really unstoppable, or unknowable for that matter, most of their success had been from setting up a number of traps to force organic life to progress one way. The Multitude just wants to destroy a number of 333 worlds, as opposed to the Reapers, who were synthetics wiping out all organic life in the galaxy before organic life could build synthetics that could wipe them out.
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