How powerful would composite Kane be?

**Pendaran** · 07-05-2012, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by Siriel

Tzimisce.

However, I'd like to note that this particular feat involved hijacking Tremere's "You're all my bitches. All of you. Especially you." mind-control ritual. Tzimisce, on his own, was 'merely' some sort of plague...nature-takeover...thing.

And one of his childer was Ebola. Which I always found one of the more somehow endearingly stupid things I read in the OWoD.

**Omegalith** · 07-05-2012, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by Siriel

Well, the 'winner' gets erased by God, so...

Actually, the loser wins, because I'm pretty sure the 'winner' will be less thorough than God about it.

To be fair, this only happens after killing him.

...Also technically, isn't a bodyguarding/revenge vow from an entity unrelated to the rumble outside support?

**Pendaran** · 07-05-2012, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by Omegalith

To be fair, this only happens after killing him.

...Also technically, isn't a bodyguarding/revenge vow from an entity unrelated to the rumble outside support?

Not especially I'd think. The Sevenfold Vengeance thing is an intrinsic part of Caine's existance as the curse of vampirism itself.

**Siriel** · 07-05-2012, 03:45 PM

And the others have it as a result of the Mark they bear. (Those that actually are the biblical Cain and whose writers wrote it in, that is.)

Basically, I see it as no different from, say, D&D priests getting their powers from their respective deities. The thing is powered by someone else, but it's part of Cain/Caine/whatever's powerset.

**kane** · 07-05-2012, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by HVulpes

Here's the wikipeida links to all Canes plus a primer for all fictional Canes
[snip]

No Robert E. Howard`s Solomon Kane? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solomon_Kane
Shame on you

**Guy Smiley** · 07-05-2012, 05:25 PM

Well, I can't think of a Kain ship, but Kain Blueriver owns a Lost Ship. (And a psionic laser sword, but yeah.)

And if we allow Fisk's Laser-cane, then we should totally allow Feldon's Cane and the Cane of Byrna.

**Hazard** · 07-05-2012, 05:34 PM

Next Dimension's Gemini Saint is called Cain (and Abel but that part hasn't been fully explained).

By presentation, he seems to be every bit Saga's equal, whose weaker brother could kamikaze himself to destroy multiple planets.

Feat wise, he is utterly blitzing a guy who passed light speed in the prequel and generally beating up everyone that shows up in front of him.

**Siriel** · 07-05-2012, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by Hazard

Next Dimension's Gemini Saint is called Cain (and Abel but that part hasn't been fully explained).

By presentation, he seems to be every bit Saga's equal, whose weaker brother could kamikaze himself to destroy multiple planets.

Feat wise, he is utterly blitzing a guy who passed light speed in the prequel and generally beating up everyone that shows up in front of him.

Shock! If the composite has some sort of counter to Obsfucate, it means that Caine would lost the Caine VS Everyone else!

...Then erasure by God, but the victory is what counts!

**Hazard** · 07-05-2012, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by Siriel

Shock! If the composite has some sort of counter to Obsfucate, it means that Caine would lost the Caine VS Everyone else!

...Then erasure by God, but the victory is what counts!

Wouldn't really know. Cain technically should have some psychic ability, but he hasn't shown any yet, and no feats no glory.

Thanatos had some pretty cool cosmic awareness thing going on, but Thanatos' entire point was showing that even a demi god was still laughably above even the strongest Saints.

**The Drunkard Kid** · 07-05-2012, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by HVulpes

Horatio Caine, a fictional character from CSI: Miami who is the head of the Miami-Dade Crime Lab

Originally Posted by mailedbypostman1

Oh dear god this is going to be bad.

It looks like its time to start...

...raising Cain.

YYYYEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!

**The Drunkard Kid** · 07-05-2012, 07:06 PM

The aforementioned Tenchi Muyo Kain has time traveling and the ability to survive a direct hit with a weapon that can allegedly wipe out a small galaxy, IIRC.